Ziller is an idiot. There’s NO WAY we give up on Yi for TMac. In fact, there should be NO WAY we would give up on anything valuable for McGrady, not even the Mavs pick.

How about Battie, Simmons & Swat for TMac? LOL… I am not sure I would even take him if they giftwrapped him for us, as he would take playing time from CDR and TWill and touches from Yi and Brook…

Let’s face it dudes, he’s done, is it worth it?

Here’s a brilliant point Ziller makes to justify why he thinks we should be interested in making such a stupid deal:

“the Chinese forward is on the books for $4 million next season”

Geez, this guy’s an ignorant. He is on the books because the Nets decided to pick up his option! And that was before he showed he’s progressed as much as we can see this season… Why would they want to dump his salary now that he’s making strides? Hilarious…

Battie, Simmons, Swat for TMac and Dorsey works. I expect the deal that gets him will be a lot like the Carter deal in 2004, only worse. Houston will want picks and/or a good young player. Doubt anyone would be that interested to give up much, with his health so questionable. His contract is huge and putting all the pieces together to make it work will be quite difficult.

On the other hand, if he can still put up 20 a game, he’s worth the risk. He’s an expiring contract. If he shows he can play, his new team can sign him to a new more reasonabl deal using his Bird rights. If he can’t do it, and the team has given up nothing significant to get him, so what.

Swat’s from Houston, by the way.

let’s try t-mac for najera, simmons and alston and/or picks..
it sounds good maybe we can win 2-3 more games ..

NI – I’d pull the trigger on that deal in a heartbeat. It’s not like we’re in a position to refuse it, lol.

By the way, by ‘that deal’, I’m referring to the one sans Yi of course.

This should be Knicks not Nets.

just like putting different flowers on top of the coffin, nobody cares any more… Don’t buy a ticket till The Rat is gone.

Please no T-Mac.

Just what we need, another injury prone player. LOL

The problem I see with getting T-Mac, is this.

T-Mac comes here and plays very well, better then expected.

Does he then become one of our FA signings? How much money will it take to sign him?

How much money will be left for other, more attractive signings?

He is getting up there in age and with his questionable health, why bother.

This young Nets team has to learn how to win, or keep losing .

Putting a bandage on our deep wounds won’t help.

Sounds like a deal the old Knicks would make.

Lets wait for something more attractive. So we lose another 50 games, big deal.

T-Mac is a shell of his former self. This team needs a big-time defensive all-star, not an out-of-shape, always-injured diva on the downside of his career…

Maybe Proky goes after Yao Ming. Corners the Chinese market.

Improves Russian relations with the Chinese.

Wins Nobel Peace Prize,in process.

Houston already have Scola and Landry,and you really think the league would let Yao and Yi play for the same team?

After giving away Anderson in the Carter trade – now some fool wants to try for McGrady?. There is no way anyone would trade McGrady for Simmons, Battie, etc… Only the Nets are that stupid.

Don’t give Isaiah – I mean Kiki any more brilliant ideas.

no!
TMac will take shots away from CDR and Lee
Its nice to have a 30point scorer but not while losing Yi.
Maybe tmac and landry for Yi BS Alston Battie

If we really need to make a trade with Houston it needs to be for Landry, then our front line would understand work ethic.

this would be the dumbest trade in nets history.

I’d do it in a minute. None of the players we give up are any good. Even when they play well we can’t beat bad teams. They all stink on D. Anytime we dump salary it gives Thorn an opportunity to add talent. The more we cling to Yi the longer we stink. When you’re on pace to be the worst team EVER, fans have a hard time accepting the fact that we don’t have much.
On a side note, it’s funny when posters write we should play people to showcase their talent to increase their trade value and when they play, they stink, so nobody wants them.

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are you kidding me ?

It seems to me that there is no urgency concerning the Nets situation.

Nobody in the NBA, Nets ownership or management, seems to want to get the Proky situation resolved quickly.

I think everybody seems happy with us losing this season.

Maybe we are “guaranteed” the #1 pick if we finish with the worst record. Maybe there is a “gentlemens agreement” in place.

Stranger things have happened in NBA history, under Stern…

the only way ill accept it is if they ask for any of these guys: Simmons, Hassell, SWat, Najera, Boone, Battie. we could include (to make it look more atractive) Dooling but no more than that, Tmac cant, i repeat, cant play +50 games in a single season.

too many surgeries on a single body, he cant withstand much more punishment

ill do it just to add some excitement

Could McGrady even run on the court now?

Isiah would sign TMac to a max for the knicks, that’s about it!

ON the McGrady thing, if getting mcgrady is going to give us more cap room without including Yi, then I am for it. After that I dont want him on this team. Rumor has it Mcgrady has already shown he doesnt want to be here and he wants PT. Our young guys need PT more then his ass.

Why would a smart organization like the Rockets want to trade T-Mac?

Answer = Because they are a smart organization.

I’ve been thinking about the pro’s and cons of McGrady on this current team and I really don’t see where it makes us too much better. It could be a fun experiment, but it could also add to the frustration our young players are already experiencing.

Let me know when we’re trying to get Kevin Martin, who I think could be a perfect compliment to Devin Harris. They even look like they could be brothers.

McGrady’s 23 millions seems like cap space ???

even releasing Simmons, 10 millions, najera 4 millions and 1-2 other guys we would tie and/or perhaps get a few cents released only but dont count on much $$$ for that trade.

where does he fits in the rotation anyway ?

Lopez——/——-Boone
Yi———-/——-Najera
CDR———/——-Jayes
Lee———/——-Twill
Harris—-/——-Alston

McGrady ???? ^

6th man ?

cuz he aint better than any of those guys up there, well… right now cuz in one time he was.

as for alston, we need a real PG backup. i liked dooling a lot but he is injured and might not play well again or soon enough. we need that John Wall, if he is worthy he’ll start as PG, just wait untill Harris gets a sprained knee and let wall do his magic (if he trully has it)

2010 to 2011 and future dream lineup

Lopez———-/———*
David Lee—-/———Yi
Lebron———/———CDR
Wade————/———C.Lee
J.Wall———/———Harris

jayes, Twill reserves in case of need.

Tmac 6th man whenever he can fit in (signed to vets min)

• lopez back up might be a decent 2010 draft pick, since Boone & Battie aint worth the effort

by that time i hope we get rid of Simmons, Hassell, SWat, Najera, Alston, Dooling, Boone, Battie.

Go Nets GO

The only free agent we can get, plus we can resign him in the summer if we want.
This is the guy we need, plus he is well liked in China as his jersey was sold more then Yaos.
I say go for him so we can improve this this season!

We should have traded VC for Landry and whatever to make the salary fits. I will say No to Tmac also why ruined the chances for a Number 1 pick. No diference between 5 wins and 10 wins. I just wonder how did these guys become reporters.

No to Tmac.

those who like this trade ……have no knowledge about basketball. period.

CDR and Bobby Simmons for Kevin Martin. There, I got that off my chest. I feel better.

First, it’s probably a bad deal for team chemistry andplayer developmetn: Three of Lee, Twill, Hassell, Hayes and CDR would basically have to be benched for McGrady to get the PT he seeks. Second, we have enough wings already. Finally, if you gave up Yi, Simmons and Battie, all play the 4 which would leave us with very little – Boone, Najera and Swat – at that position and guarantee the Nets are outrebounded for the rest of the year.

Since Houston already has Scola and Landry, I don’t see why they like that trade. The Chicago trade would be far better for Houston. Salmon could play the 2 and Miller could be a 5.

@ dirt

lol

kevin martin is Tmac in his younger days. explosive in scoring but injury prone

id rather have CDR who can score decently than getting Kev.

way too injured to trust that trade

Question for all of you who want T-Mac…when was the last time you saw him play? It can’t have been within the last 2 years….

No to TMac, but I wouldn’t mind getting Dorsey. Also Landry, but the Rockets are not trading him obviously.

I have no objection to TMac if the Nets feel he can still play. I wouldnt give up any of the younger players except for SWat, but the Nets have $38 million in expiring contracts. What else do you think you’re going to get for those contracts? A second round pick in 2011?

If he doesnt work, no big deal. If he does, then you could sign him next July. I dont believe his career is at an end…and I believe he can be had for a song.

If it means CDR going to the bench, fine if TMac can play.

i’d trade simmons, najera swat & hassell and a future 2 for him. i can’t stand to watch this current team any more. bring in tmac and some summer camp cuts

TMac is a dead end any way you look at it. I’m with Dirt—let’s go for Kevin Martin. The Kings are playing great without him, and while fragile, he is a bona fide scorer when healthy. I would be more willing to give up Lee than CDR though.

The only reason I’d bother dealing for T-Mac is if we can ship off Najera’s contract. Otherwise its just not worth it

as long as no young talent is included im all for it…he could be our sf for the rest of the year. Fans would be excited and ticket sales might increase a bit.

harris/dooling
lee/cdr
tmac/twill
yi/dooling
brook/battie

i like…i dont understand why others object. that line up seems exciting…the getting the #1 pick is a lottery anyway.

TMac >> CDR, now and for always. When TMac is 50, he’ll still be a better player than CDR. So if we pull the trigger and CDR sits, big deal.

In MY opinion the only way the Nets should be involved trading for T-MAC is if they include Najera in the trade. This would mean we would be even further under the cap in the summer. Lose now to win later.

Trade Simmons + Alston’s EC’s for Gallinari[rookie contract- doesn’t make much}+ Curry[1 more yr}to back up Brooke. So we get Gallo for taking Curry’s contract and giving the Knicks the most cap room.

i think nets need to pull of a trade not necessarily for tmac but for someone else because we have pieces to makes deals.

would rockets take najera? if so, why?

TMAC IS LIKE MARBURRY…NO THANKS

Since when is T-Mac like Marbury…? wowwwwwwwww ! T-mac or no T-mac sorry guys but the Nets are still going to lose i love t-mac but this is just not the right time to get him. We should trade all these vets for younger players not other veterans after major surgery.

The only T-Mac we could use is the T-Mac scoring 14 Points the last 36 seconds of the game to beat the Spurs, or in our case, every other team…

Yi was a monster the last 3 games…..giving him up for an ever-injured T-Mac would be just as rediculuous as buying a season ticket for women-soccer.

Just keep it up like it is right now and hope for a good draft and free-agency next summer and everything is gonna be alright.

@Andy

Why would they want Najera when they have a younger, cheaper, high-motor, ’tweener forward already in Landry?

^exactly…i see them talking battie though they need size.

Jarvis Hayes is gonna make everything alright :)

I agree with addictive. This move would be strictly for more cap space. Send Simmons, Battie Alston and Najera for McGrady, Dorsey and Cook, if that is possible.

Then Buy Out Mcgrady. I want nothing to do with this guy. I dont want to even entertain inserting him into our line up. The guy is done. If he is smart, He will take a cheaper contract to get on a Vet team like Orlando. Him and VC with Howard. Dorsey’s contract isnt guaranteed next year. Cook’s contract is done next year. We get rid of Najera’s contract.

The only issue is that do u hold the vets with expiring for closer to the deadline just in case a playoff team needs some help.

I dont get this at all. T-mac comes off the books after this year so why would the rockets trade him for crap?

If there is any trade/deal I think would fit the Nets is one NOT involving expiring contracts but resigning to longer deal in the form of Tyrus Thomas. I prefer the latter. Longer and better defensively.

And pickup one MAX type player in the offseason preferably JJohnson, who I believe is our best case scenario with the fact that this dismal season will discourage FAs to sign with us.

But I can’t remember the last time a big time free agent signed with an absymal team when they can get comparable money elsewhere.

Some of you all are just ignorant. T-MAC is getting a raw deal much like his cousin did in Toronto. It’s not that far fetched to believe that a change of scenery could reinvigorate his career. Is he injury prone? Yes. Is his contract expensive now? Yes. Will he be off the books soon anyways? YES.

The Rockets are behind the 8-ball here. They will HAVE to take a deal that leaves them with very little ROI. A package of Najera (we can force that one on them), Dooling (or Alston), Boone (or Swat) and a future 2 (or our current 2nd rounder) could very well get it done given T-MAC’s injury history, contract, and mutual separation from the team.

At worst: Nets win a couple of extra games and still likely get the best chance at the number 1 pick (which many of you apparently feel is entitled to the team with the worst record….news flash, it’s RARE that the team with the best chance actually gets it).

At best: T-MAC is healthy (reports are he’s worked harder than ever to get back in shape) helps lead the team to a few wins, allows CDR to make a late push for 6th man of the year, we sign him as our second “big” FA next year and pair him with Lebron, Wade, Amare, or Wall or some 2011 FA.

If you can get him with late picks, expirings, and dump a bad contract or two – DO IT. It’s certainly worth the minimal risk.

P.S. – For whoever brought up it might hurt team chemistry….have you seen this Nets team? Give me a break!

battie simmons and hassell for tmac did a trade machine on espn it works we get tmac we cant be any worse than 2-80 lol

Small additional note: Rockets have 15 players on roster so cannot doa trade of multiple players for TMac. Any team must take back equal number of players. Teams could use trade exceptions to get to the necessary number. But I still wouldn’t do this deal. They should get real long term talent or not do a deal at all.

I can’t believe no one wants Yi out. A week ago he would have been traded for any expiring contract.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Houston is getting some pretty nice offers for a $23m expiring contract, not to mention the chance TMac may actually not be finished.

I would go as high as to offer:

Simmons
Battie
Alston
2011 GS #2
2012 NJ #2
$3m cash

for

TMac
Dorsey
Taylor

But, I think Houston will get better offers.

NETS starting line up in “2010”……….Lopez , Lebron , T-MAC , Wade and Wall…… Yes , I would do it…..

are you kiddin’?

Why not get alittle fancy…

Nets get: Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry
Rockets Get:Nate Robinson, bobby simmons, darko.
KNicks get: Tmac, Sean Williams…

lol.

Harris/Dooling
Lee/CDR
Chandler/Twill
Yi/Boone
Lopez/Curry/Battie

forget it i think curry has a player option…nevermind.

We should probably trade Devin Harris, Courtney Lee and T-Will to Sacramento for Kenny Thomas and Sean May; and Yi, Lopez, Dooling, Najera and Simmons to Houston for T-Mac.

We’d have no one under contract for next season. Perfect!

dirt, that is very funny.

@ Seeker

A week ago, Yi was not on the court and wasn’t scoring over 20 ppg.

First McGrady nixes a possible deal last February after learning the Nets might trade for him, and now we are supposed to believe he wants to come to the Nets??

No way. McGrady would HURT the rest of the Nets. Houston doesn’t want to play him more, because they know he would hurt them.

McGrady and Houston are in a Catch 22. Unless McGrady gets to play more for Houston, no team in the NBA will want him on their team.

Battie, Alston, Simmons all need to be saved for a deal which would actually make the Nets better for both this year and beyond.

Besides, if Nets traded Battie and SWat, there would be noone on the bench to fill in, like when Boone is injured.
I wouldn’t trade SWat for McGrady straight up in terms of benefit to the Nets. SWat at least is a good cheerleader. McGrady is a cry-baby who would hurt the rest of the team.

If you want to trade Yi, then get back Bosh or Boozer, but only if confident that they can be re-signed.

Now if you want to include Najera’s contract just to take McGrady off their hands, then we could talk. However Nets need help up front, not at the guard position – its going to be hard enough to get minutes for CDR, Lee and TWill as it is.

Why does Houston want to trade Dorsey, as he isn’t giving much PT. How about Dorsey for SWat straight up?

Besides, any deal that involves Nets taking on new salary 22 million vs. 19 million would have to wait until Proky is in charge. If Najera’s contract was thrown in, then it might work out.

Also, Nets are no longer about sales gimmicks now that Ratner is out. Prokhorov is coming to Win.

I like the idea of trading for him and Thorn is good with deals like this

Can we get Houston to take Courtney Lee away from here also?
If so, c’mon Tmac?

CDR is a 2guard and is better than Lee. If the Nets got TMac, than CLee should be going to the bench, not CDR.

daryl morey is way too smart to bring in another team’s throw-aways. look at how he’s built that team. look at the sneaky-good moves they’ve made? why would they trade away their $23 expiring cap chip when it’s their’s to use next summer as well. and unlike the knicks, nets, and some other teams with money available, the rockets are already a playoff team. in a deeper conference, no less.

Chinese fan here.
Apparently on netsdaily a player is only as good as his last game…3 games in after Yi’s return and he’s untradeble?
:)

@pawley Great point

This is about developing the young players. Why would we trade for Tmac?

@feizo

yeah. that’s basically how it works here.

the nets should get t mac

Houston:

Tracy McGrady

For

New Jersey:

Keyon Dooling
Bobby Simmons
Tony Battie

trade keyon because he has another year left, and John Wall who is also a PG will be coming.

hey, if houston have too many players they can just buy them out

I would rather have a Big Mac…

LMAO @Dirt

We should only do a trade if it is for a package of Bobby Simmons and Rafer Alston or something close to that. See how it works for the rest of the year and lose him if he does not have it. Regardless, I would only do the trade because he is done after this year. Otherwise, we should have kept Vince.

Forget McGrady this is a team that needs to keep developing it’s young guys, no matter how much the growing pains hurt us fans right now. This is what wish Proky could make happen. Only if we get lucky and draft Wall.
PG- Wall
SG- Wade
SF- Lebron
PF- Derrick Favors(We have enough talent and draft picks to
                   work out a trade to get another top 3
                   pick in next years draft to get the next
                   D Howard)
C- Lopez
Surround this team with good role players, a top notch coach and Brooklyn will be powerhouse NBA team for years to come. Proky make it happen.

dooling najera n simmons 4 tmac.

dooling najera n simmons and future 2nd round pick 4 tmac.

tmac might b the perfect veteran to teach these young guards that we have. he can help them develop lovely.

not happening….ran into assistant coach barise today and he laughed when i brought it up. no chance of happening

Such a bad idea. Guy has no trade value anymore. Used to be amazing, but would rather have his cousin back.

Nets might as well rescind the VC trade than get back TMAC. VC is healthier and already knows how to mesh with the team. Oh wait, they can’t unilaterally rescind a trade?

good, trade yi for yao

We don’t need McGrady here to further corrupt these kids.

CDR, Lee, and Williams need as many minutes at the 2 and 3.

I don’t care if we don’t win more than 7 games this season, stick with the kids and let them play through this.

If we are going to bring in someone who is a veteran, let it be a good example. McGrady is not an example of someone we need in the Nets locker room. He is a shell of his former self, and frankly before he pulled that stunt last season he looked out of shape and uninterested in his profession. Let him rot on Houston’s books.