Did the Nets Steal an All-Star Advantage on the Knicks?

Joe Favorito, a former Knick P.R. man, thinks the Nets played it very smart marketing Devin Harris as an all-Star, comparing it to his old employer's effort. "By creating and then pushing a fun viral campaign and working both through the media, with fan votes and behind the scenes," the Nets helped Harris. Contrast that, he writes, with "Mike D’Antoni downplaying the potential of David Lee as an All-Star across the river".
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Devin Harris didn’t deserve to be an All Star, but neither did David Lee. Lee benefits from the D’Antoni, high pace style to get his numbers.
by A.S. on Jan 31, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions
Good to see so many Nets fans out here today!
by Net Income on Jan 31, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions
I doubt the coaches were influenced by the viral marketing. They were just deceived by Harris’ gaudy numbers this year. Carter doesn’t deserve to be an All-Star either. He’s too passive. There, I said it.
Trade Yi, get RJ back. At least RJ has a heart. Oh, and he can play defense. Don’t hold your breath, we’re not going anywhere, except straight to the lottery. The Knicks have a better record right now. That’s a sad state of affairs.
by Playoffs??! Playoffs???... on Jan 31, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions
i cant believe all the negativity that has been generated from Devin making the all-star team.
franchise pg = All-Star
franchise center = Rookie Challenge
isnt that something to be HAPPY about?
as for the nets-v-knicks. are people really that surprised? we are rebuilding, they are giving fans false hope. they are not a young team, they are filled with talented scoring older players who are either expiring contracts or are just there.
they play a run-n-gun system that teaches NO DEFENSE. we on the other hand are rebuilding with a 25 year old ALL-STAR pg (an all star for yrs to come imo), a 20 year old beast in the making of a center, a 21/24 yr old PF who was having a great stretch until his injury and we currently have a 20 year old starting at PF.
we are at least showing that we have a future. we are not putting all our eggs in the 2010 basket. we have a team that we can show to those FA and they can see there is a solid group already in place, whereas with the knicks who are they going to show FA they have? hey, come play with Nate and um…well after you sign we are going to get every good FA left out there because they want to play with you.
that is probably what is going to happen. right now the knicks want to put a fun product on the court so fans buy tickets and enjoy the run-n-gun system now and next year, then their new hope is that Lebron signs there with Wade and that is all they need.
on this side of the river, while we are not that exciting to watch we are building a team the right way, the best way imo. young, talented players with some vets surrounding them. with so many young players, especially 2 young bigs, its hard to win. its hard to play Defense and even though im not a big frank fan i always liked that he preaches Defense 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
its not like the knicks have young players they are building with. in that system if you are an OK offensive player Mike will make you look like an above average player. look at how he makes duhon look. lee was putting up nice numbers last year but this year the system is helping him out.
knicks fans think Lebron and Wade will go to NY and team up with Dantoni and they will play like teamUSA. yeah it sounds good, but that isnt reality. and what happens IF the knicks do not get any big time FA? they have NO young legit talent to fall back on, whereas over here we can fall back on Brook and Devin and hopefully Yi. well the knicks do have baby shaq in eddy curry so i guess they will be fine. :p
by xcalibur on Jan 31, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions
What is with the negativity? Wow, I can see why the Nets don’t like their fans… gimme a break, the complaining never ends…
by canofan42 on Jan 31, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions
“A.S. Says:
Devin Harris didn’t deserve to be an All Star, but neither did David Lee. Lee benefits from the D’Antoni, high pace style to get his numbers."
I’m sure Rondo doesn’t benefit from anything on the Boston Celtics except for his own innate, ungodly, superhuman talent!!!!!
by Mr. Dollar Bills on Jan 31, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions
This is exactly what I’ve been saying about these fans on this site. The Nets are bad and the fans are worse! Devins missed last second shot and the fact that he made the allstar team and he’s getting respect from the rest of the league is actually making these guys dislike Devin? Unreal…
by Opie's Uncle on Jan 31, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions
Wow, 21.6 ppg, 6.4 assists…6.4 assists is 14th in the league.
Out of the 13 people who have more assists than him, only 2 score more points: D-Wade and Lebron!
Vince Carter is not, NOT, N-O-T bigger than this team. If you want to be a VC fan and not an NJ Nets fan there are other web sites and boards you can post on.
Devin Harris deserves to be an All-Star. Sure, Carter does too, but it shouldn’t take away from what Devin has done this year season.
by dirtyjersey22 on Jan 31, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions
opie’s uncle, i think there is one thing most of us can agree on. there are nets fans and there are vince carter fans. there is nothing wrong with that, but its tough to have good convos about THE NETS when there are people who really dont care about the nets and just watch because 15 suits up for us
the best thing for this franchise was for Devin to make the AS team. if vince made it too great, but we need to be able to market and get some love from our younger players.
if you cannot be excited for Devin and Brook just because vince isnt there or “devin doesnt deserve it” is just absurd imo.
by xcalibur on Jan 31, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions
ps…1.6 steals per game. 14th in the league as well. The only players who score more points out of the 13 people with more steals… Take a guess. There are only two of ’em.
If you do the research, it seems the four biggest stat-stuffers in the league are Dwight Howard, D-Wade, Lebron and yes, Devin Harris!
by dirtyjersey22 on Jan 31, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions
can you imagine the fanbase we’d have if VC was traded?
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anyways I still believe Harris deserved it, and you can make a case for David Lee, cuz he’s a double double beast, but I still don’t DH was the reason for Lee to not get a shot.
Coaches just don’t realize the hard fought effort that Lee does everytime he steps on the court.
Still Harris has increased way more dramatically in a tempo suited for his game, and Lee even suited in a tempo perfect for him, doesn’t have eye popping stats.
by R.M. on Jan 31, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions
@R.M.
Well said. haha i cant imagine the fanbase if VC was traded.this is going to be a desert.
by Benjamin on Jan 31, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions
Typicall case of the older brother (Knicks) that cant handle the shine being stolen away from the younger brother (Nets). Wake up Knicks fans, we have been the better franchise for the past 8 years or so.
by Jason on Jan 31, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions
harris 100 % derserves to be an allstar and thats why he is an allstar
by joe t on Jan 31, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions
My bad, i thought this was said by a Knicks fan. take back my old comments.
by Jason on Jan 31, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions
well as a knick fan, I don’t think you can laugh at the notion of David Lee being a potential all-star. 16 and 12 on a better team. 35 double doubles as of tonight.
Harris does his thing, no doubt, and he probably deserves that spot, but it’s not a no brainer.
and Lee doesn’t benefit from the D’Antoni system that much, no plays are run for him, none of those Harris iso’s, and the he’s already averaged 11 boards in a season. so, what sense does that make?
by mills on Jan 31, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions
The Nets are run so much better than the Knicks. It is a shame the league can’t switch their arenas and jerseys.
by mt57 on Feb 1, 2009 8:36 AM EST reply actions
At last night’s game, I shouted “First Time All-Star” when he was mentioned in the starting lineup against the 76ers.
by Tal Barzilai on Feb 1, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions
Have you watched the Knicks ever? Wilson Chandler DAvid Lee Nate Robinson and Danilo Gallinari is no young talent? What are ou talking about?
Chandler looks like he’s going to be a stud, so does Gallo. David Lee is averaging 16 and 12 and Nate Robinson is putting up 16 4 and 4. Nate is 24, Lee 25, Gallo 20, and Wilson 21.
You say the Nets run better I don’t know where you get that from. We score more than you.
We beat you in New Jerse and the record is better.
Harris and Lopez is the onl future you have. What FA are coming there. We have MSG, New Yoek the greatest city in the world, and a phenomenal coach and one of the best young cores in the league in our favor. Plus cap room.
Watch basketball, then talk. Look at the teams we’ve beaten, you’ve lost to OKC and Washington in blowouts.
We traded our top 2 players and were still better. 21-25 to your 21-27
by mills on Feb 1, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions
Harris is an AS, Brook Lopez will be one for sure, even Yi has AS potential. Neither Chandler, Gallinari nor Lee are better than Devin nor Lopez, and their ceilling is nowhere near as high as Brook and Harris’. I don’t even think Chandler, Gallo nor Lee will be All-Stars.
by Andrés on Feb 1, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions
Devin needs to pass more (especially to Vince). I would appreciate him more if he did. As it stands right now, he’s one step away from being another Allen Iverson.
by On the contrary... on Feb 1, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions
Uh, Harris isn’t young he’s 26 and in his prime.
Lee isn’t better than Lopez. Laughable. 16 12 on 57 percent shooting compared to what 11 8 and 48 percent shooting from a 7 footer. You’re bias is ridiculous.
You’re simply unaware of Chandler. Remember, the guy who killed Yi and shot 10 for 12 from the field on him. Also the same 21 year old who had 31 and 8 on Kevin Garnett.
Gallo and Chandler will be studs. Lopez isn’t a stud he’s solid, not great, and Yi is terrible.
Nobody wants to play in New Jersey. Period.
by mills on Feb 1, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions
If the Knicks can beat the Lakers tomorrow, then we will talk.
by Tal Barzilai on Feb 1, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions
Lopez ceiling? he is slow, and lacks offensive moves. He’s a so so rebounder for 7 feet and you’re talking about his ceiling.
Chandler is averaging 14 and 6 and has 3 game winners this year. Athletic, can shoot, and plays outstanding defense. That’s potential.
And gallinari doesn’t have the ceiling lopez has…let me not even start.
David Lee is alread better than Lopez. The onl thing lopez does better is block shots!
Lopez had 31 on CHris Wilcox….on the same night Lee had 25 and 16 on Amare.
by mills on Feb 1, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions
Lee better than Brook? You must be joking, right? Lee is nothing but a hustle player who benefits from D’Antoni system. He’s not even close to being an AS. Lopez will be an AS for years to come. No GM in his right mind would take Lee over Brook. And Brook is a rookie. Don’t talk me about bias.
Gallinari and Chandler studs???? mwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!
You are the one being unaware, Yi was averaging 19.3 pts and 7.3 before he got injured.
If you are happy with your “studs” Gallinari, Chandler and Lee, I’m happy for you, I don’t need to discuss something so evident as is to say that Lopez is way much more valuable than all those guys.
by Andrés on Feb 2, 2009 4:23 AM EST reply actions

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