Harris an All-Star

sorry carter but atleast harris made it

i’m not watching asl, he is not deserve to be in all-star

YEAH DEVIN HARRIS!!!!

lol that’s a joke VC deserved more than devin this year in my eyes. Vince has been the team leader and has said and done all the right things. Travesty.

sigh… Vince should have made it. Not Harris.

i hate coaches. none of them watch Nets and they all don’t like Vince.

Vince has haters as many as fans.

ilove you devin!!!!
carter dnt worry you really deserve to make it

Go Devin. Good choice, one net is too many! VC is slowing down; harris on way up. Makes sense.

Darn it Vince Carter did not make it. he deserves it he is an allstar player.

devin deserved it. he’s better than carter anyway.

VC is not even a notable miss – ouch, the mighty have fallen. (Geuss his trade value is not as high as we thought)

AI stole VC’s spot. now coaches…

@ ss wha are talking about
i serious dont think you are a net sfan if you are a devi hatetr

Devin isn’t better. For a PG, his FG% is ridiculously low.
His assist-turnover ration is just a bit better than VC’s—that’s ridiculous.
VC deserved it. Coaches didn’t want to recognize it.
Ironically, VC has better FG and 3-pt percentage than Joe Johnson, Devin Harris, Iverson, and Pierce. And please, who had as many great finishes as VC did so far this year. Please…….. name them.

I’m so pissed Vince didn’t make it!

If Granger’s current injury is severe… then let’s hope David Stern rewards Vince Carter, rather than Ray Allen (fat chance)

VC should have made it. But naturally the coaches weren’t going to put 2 nets on the squad. Vince should have been in over Pierce, Lewis, and Nelson. I could see Nelson I guess, but Pierce is having a down year and he got in solely on his 4 or 5 good playoff games last year and the (ridiculous amount of)hype he got. Ray Allen should have been in over him easily, and probably Rondo.

Lewis should not have made it. Once again they are putting way too much emphasis on team performance in the ASG. I agree with what Chris Webber I think said, that the playoffs and MVP award reward team play, ASG rewards individual performance.

As for the west Al Jefferson got absolutely snubbed.

two years in a row, no vc. Maybe he isnt as good as we think……. I would put all the names awarded in above him, especially Harris. Granger is awesome, nelson is having a great year. Bosh is better and not a guard anyway and Johnson is awesome too. 20 wins won’t get two – lucky to get one and Harris is having a break out year.

@ John

yeah, I mean how can Al not get in, but David West? The guy has not missed any games this season, and David West points and rebounds are down this year.

Paul Pierce? sigh look at his stats, they are nothing compared to Vince’s, and with two other all-stars on the team, of course they’d be winning, but he hasn’t done much individually.

Nelson is understandable, but Rashard Lewis? Do the magic really deserve 3 all-stars? Lewis is having a great year, so is Nelson, but Carter is way more deserving.

I’d have put Ray Allen as the wildcard over Lewis, and put VC as a forward instead of Pierce…

sigh

VC, your having a great year, and I know you’d rather sleep, but if you went in, people could realize even more that you were having one of your best seasons in quite a while, and have been the leader, and the best player on this team.

I just wish Devin could have talked about Vince more. I mean when he was talking on TNT, he just talked about how “I knew that I can become a very good player, I’ve got all the skills, me and Frank were solid.”

They had to drag out him talking about Vince, god…no respect.

Congratulations Harris, hopefully by the end of the season, you proved you deserve it.

I’m not asking for an injury, but I just hope Vince gets some recognition, being over guys like Mo and Ray.

Don’t worry VC, I know your a true all-star.

“Maybe he isnt as good as we think”

yeah, cause the coaches decide who is good, right? please…

I will not be watching the game this year because of this huge blunder by the coaches and fans. IVERSON? NELSON? RASHARD? wow…..and vince is left at home??

count me out folks

Devin’s early season performance earned him this one. He has been playing poorly this month. Sure he’s got skills and yes, he’s been riddled with injury but we haven’t seen him persevere through it. That’s something he needs to learn how to do. Get tougher and contribute in other ways. Sometimes I think he quits after he gets 6 assists, doesn’t think he has to get anymore. So, instead of shooting 40% in a game over and over again, contribute on defense and up his assist numbers.

I like Vince, but I don’t like his invisible man act. Dissapears and reappears unpredictably. He hasn’t shown the consistency that a veteran player should. Hasn’t come through for his team enough.

I think VC deserves the spot as much as Harris. The only reason why I see Harris over Vince is because this is his breakout year…. and coaches wanted to recognize that.

As far as being the team leader, there’s no doubt it’s Vince. People keep thinking that this is Harris’s team, but I see it the other way… it’s Vince’s team. Without Vince I don’t think Harris would have the kind of season that he has this season. I don’t see Harris as the go to guy, at least not for a while. For those who think he is, you must be kidding yourself.

I love Harris and I’m so glad he made it, but VC definitely deserved that spot. He’s playing so well right now on a team that has a chance at the playoffs, when everyone expected them to be the East’s bottom-feeder this year. I hope VC gets voted in. If he does, I guarantee a vintage Carter dunk.

I used to have such a love/hate relationship watching Carter over the past few years, but I’ve really grown to love him more while watching him lead these guys this season. He’s done so much for Frank too, and kept the Nets in so many close games. I just wish I had the Raptors game that went into OT this year saved on DVR or Tivo or something, lol. Such a classic VC performace!

The game has been getting worse and worse over the years anyway in my opinion. I enjoy seeing the ball movement and passing and highlight reel plays, and yes in the 4th quarter guys playing hard.

What I hate seeing is Wade get the ball bring it up court and shoot without passing, next possession Gilbert Arenas coming up the court and jacking up a quick shot without passing, and next possession Lebron taking fadeaway because he also has to get “his.” Followed by Dwight Howard getting the ball… This is how the game has gone far too much the past couple of years, not to mention in the 4th Lebron taking way to many jumpers just so he can win MVP. Add that to the joke of a fan vote (Iverson anyone) and the coaches missing the mark every year, the ASG is not a must watch event anymore

im so happy for devin he deserves it vc also should of made it
dvin on tnt!

If the Nets had a better record, they might have selected VC as well. Too bad. VC is playing well, and is still an ALL STAR caliber player. It is a nice showcase and reward for Devin, who has looked a little better the last couple of games. I don’t hold the last second miss last night against him either. Again, this all star selection speaks to the value of the KIDD trade, and good work to get this deal from the Mavericks and Mark Cuban. Let’s hope for a better second half from the whole team, and close to 35 wins for the season.

Granger will be hurt so Carter will be next in line…even if that happens, still stinks though. Carter should have been a reserve.

Carter had better stats then most of the reserves.
And if you think stats don’t mean anything, name one of the reserves who’s been as clutch as VC this season.

Congratulations to Mr:Hog you deserve that spot cough cough carter cough cough.And again congratulation to Mr:Hog.

Nice work Devin! VC should be on there too, WTF?

devin looked mad happy on tnt hahaha carters not gonna make it if granger is injured unless he plays great for the next week

Congrats DEVIN! YOU are the future of the Nets.

VC could have made it. But lots of people look at his talent and think he should be much better. With his shooting ability, jumping ability, size, athleticism and ability to hit clutch shots. I think lots of people look at him as a wasted talent. He has more ability than Michael Jordan. He just doesn’t have that same attitude to carry teams. He’s just a nice guy. I like him and he should have been an all star this year. But if he had D. Wade, Kobe, or MJ’s will to win he would be a top ten all time player. When God made the mold for a basketball player he made Vince Carter. But he didn’t give him the drive to go with it.

this is a good sign the main to players that the nets are bulding around are going to pheonix
devin harris and b lo

I blame Frank for this. Fire Fra, er, wait…An All-Star?

Um, Keep Frank!!!!!

I Hope Wade or Iverson GETs injured!!!! so Carter can replace either of them!!! he deserves it, come on without Carter on the ents devin wouldnt be who he is now

Wade deserves the spot. can’t argue with what he’s done.

Obviously, Iverson does not. Not this year.

So in a perfect world, Harris starts.

then Carter should get Lewis’ spot.

sigh… in the 06-07 season, Jason Kidd AND Vince Carter were both selected on a sub.500 team (that was the year Nenad Krstic went down and Mikki Moore filled in) because of their superior stats and relative lack of competition.

this year, the three Eastern powerhouses have such good records, coaches just go all out and vote for those players.

shame really. the coaches just go with the flow. remember that year when four Pistons got voted in just because they were on a 72+ win pace?

i fear that harris wont drive to the basket as much now that he made the team. hes probably afraid that he might get injured which i hope he doesnt and he wont play in the allstar game he cant have that mentality

why is vc smiling in this pic?

i guess he wanted to lose

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/2009/01/28/2009-01-28_nets_falter_in_third_quarter_again_lose_.html

great for devin. great for the nets.

this franchise needs devin to succeed not only on the court, but off of it. with kidd gone people stopped paying attention to the nets, but hopefully with devin now they will focus back a little. maybe that will help marketing or tv

but i think harris making the AS team is great for free agents. the players hang out with each other and will see devin is a nice guy who has some unique skills. maybe that will help with 2010 and past 2010 with free agents.

i think vince deserved it too, but we were not getting 2 all-stars from this now team when there are too many good teams with good players ahead of them.

if im in the nets front office i would prefer Devin get the spot light instead of vince. plus vince said he rather stay home.

its tough to say players didnt deserve to make it, but like others said if starters were picked the iverson would not make the starters or reserves and i think with harris getting that starting spot vince would probably get in.

it is what it is. grats to devin. hopefully he plays great.

Devin & Brook. the future of the nets, both at AS weekend!!!

devin deserves to play in the allstar game. all he did was put up big #s all season long in assist points and steals. and who ever say hes a hog your wrong hes a points guard who can store and pass.
if he was a hog how is he getting 10 assist a game?
devin good job so far keep it up

vince should of made it its not fair that he didnt \hes playing greatball and just has to drive in more
its not a questo if vince shoud of made it infront of rashad lewis ?
wow that not fair!!!!!

go nets
go devin
go vince

Vince needs to stay home and rest, especially after the way he’s been mailing it in lately.

Kudos to Devin, but in light of what’s been going on recently, hopefully this pushes him to become a better all around player and also make his teammates better, and not just gun for stats. As a Nets fan, I was proud to see our PG on TNT getting his just due, i hope this is the first of many. Plus, i loved his aggressiveness last night in the 4th qtr. He even admitted on TNT that his shot selection isnt the greatest, which was a shock to me.

Lets give our young star some time to continue to improve and hopefully he’ll get some better coaching. He can stay averaging 21ppg, but I want that assist average to get up to the 8-9apg range.

i’m happy for devin, but really VC is more deserving. VC has been the Nets team leader and is having a renaissance season. maybe granger will be hurt and sit out the A/S… damn it, why did Thorn pass up granger… for antoine wright. UGH!

Devin does not deserve it. Rondo is better.

rondo argument is weak imo. yeah hes a nice player, but being on a team with 3 superstars really helps. he doesnt have the responsibility or pressure to carry a team like devin does. if you put devin on that team devin’s defense goes up and he can be the speed demon getting to the rim and making plays (rondo makes better passes than devin though).

nice players on very good teams always look better than they are because they are on TV more and make good plays with those stars.

AS game is more for players with good stats and help their team win. rondo is a very good role player and no offense, but i dont want to watch roll players in an exhibition game.

devin and vince have had a bad stretch recently, but it obviously didnt take away from the great play devin had to start the year and coaches realized that.

for the first time opposing coaches are coaching to stop devin. im sorry but coaches are not focusing on stopping rondo. yeah you want to stop him, but hes at most the 4th person a coach is talking about to stop behind trying to limit kg,pp,ray ray. rondo is very good, but i dont think hes an allstar, especially not over devin sorry

it would be great if Devin can make it next year. 2010 All-Star game is in Dallas :) maybe cuban could do the eastern introduction too heh.

But Rondo plays defense and Devin does not. The Nets defense has been horrible all season, and it starts with Devin’s inability to keep his guy in front of him.

Rondo is a good defender, but GET REAL. Rondo is being carried by three hall of fame level players!!!!!! I would look good running the point for Boston…this Rondo nonsense needs to stop, the kid is a good player but he’s not seeing the BLUR

I would ask to take a hit of what you’re smoking on A.S., but i’m trying to live a sober life!!!!

while that is true, if you put devin around 3 all stars and he has no pressure to score and do pretty much everything i think devin would produce on defense. that was his role in dallas and that is where he got his rep as a defender.

you as rondo to be the 1st or 2nd option and lets see how his D is effected and if he could even be a 1st or 2nd option consistently.

you could say there are guys on the cavs,magic,c’s,pistons that are better than harris if you judge them on how they play their roles. rondo plays his role to the max, but that is not an all-star role

Vince Carter IS THE ALL-STAR…I’m not sure how the
coaches could vote Devin in over Vince. Someone said
“this is Devin’s breakout season; he hasn’t even
delivered a complete season. Points, rebounds, assists;
Vince leads Devin. Devin missed six games due to injury;
when both point guards were injured Vince stepped up and handled the challenge very well. Game winners and drop
your jaw moves and dunks from Vince are all-star creds;
what gives? I don’t get it.
Devin is a quality player and will be an all-star, but
it shouldn’t be his time yet. I hope that this does not
hurt the leadership shown by VC this year.
Nobody seems to hold it against J Kidd that he tanked
on the Nets last year; maybe VC should do the same…
No, not Vince, he’s a character player, he wouldn’t do
that…HE’S AN ALL-STAR

@NBA don’t hate even though im right his goal was to make the allstar team but he made it now so why would he try as hard?1 and netsdaily how can u let him say that hahah. wow

This is why I find it better for the fans to pick the reserves rather than the coaches.

Guys think about the positive. All star break will give VC a chance to rest!

Honestly neither Carter or Harris deserves to make it.
First of all if Carter truly played his hardest- he would be starting. He is not playing with the same passion he did with in November. Carter is having is usualy January off right now- and it pretty much cost him the allstar game. If you watched every game , you noticed that a lot of stuff from Vince’s game has been removed since November even preseason. Gimme Vince Carter in preseason that guy looked real good. Carter is now fading on shots where in the beginning of the season he had set jumpers. Carter will play his best ball after the allstar break like he usually does.

As for Harris- he fell off hardcore. Just look at his month to month production. He went from 26ppg on 48% to below 40% and less than 16 ppg in January. Thats not going to ge tit done. Rondo should have had Harris’s spot and Ray Allen should have made it instead of Lewis. As for AI- he did not deserve to be starting.

This is bull: VC should be on it.Simple, he is one of the twelve best players in the East!

hope someone gets injured so VC will be chosen as a replacement. :D Harris deserves it! Good luck on your first All-star game!

Carter IS THE ALL-STAR!

will see how many minutes the coach will put him in all-star game, he told TNT he is the main leader, right now ball will not go to vc hands, he will keep shoting until coach place him on the bench, please trade vc to other team.

Rondo is a roleplayer piggybacking off of three legit stars while Harris is a STAR PLAYER. Stop the idiocy, please its getting annoying

and i’m a VC fan as much as anyone, but VC did not play his best ball this month and that is what kept him out of the game, HANDS DOWN. The guy needs to rest so he can come out after ASB playing the solid all around ball we expect from Vince Carter, and not that trash we’ve been seeing this month. Please stop the whining, you all act like this is life or death!!

I am so glad all of you are beginning too see what I have been saying for 3 years now. How VC mails in a lot of games during the course of the season. What happened to the VC that was at least rying to get to the hole???? Hes back to fadeaways jumpers on 80% of his shots. The other 20% he initiates a move to the basket only to wind up with a dirty look on his face directed towards the refs when he doesnt get a call for flailing his arms in theatrics.

Even if someone gets injured, I believe that Ray Allen will get in…he’s played well for the Celts, even though I think VC is playing better but…he doesn’t give love no more, that and the fact that the Nets aren’t very marketable. But if VC gets in, he should just snub them, like they did him…honestly, show them whats up! It’s like your girl leaving you for another guy, then after things fall through with them, she’s like “hey, would you like to go out sometime?” Ummmmm yah nooooo! Snub the league baby lol.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard?
What do you make of the fact that VC shoots at a higher percentage than Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, and Devin Harris, if he in fact attempts so many bad shots?
If you think VC takes night off(mails in games), name a number and I can easily find the same number of “off” games by Devin Harris himself and a number of the reserves.

While I do think Carter is one of the best in the east, and imo the second best shooting guard inthe east after wade, it’s ridiculous to be mad at Harris that he got in and Carter didn’t. As if someone told him, “look boy, we have one spot left, either you take, or you give it to your teammate…”. He deserved it. Everyone saying where would we be without Carter need to also think where we would be without Harris? Exactly. Nowhere. They are both equally important. Maybe at this point Carter a bit more but not in terms of his play, but his mentoring the young kids.
Yes, I’ve always noticed Carted relaxing though I don’t want to call it mailing it in. Yes, it is frustrating watching him take fade aways and threes all game and look like he’s afraid of taking his man to the hole. I thought after he abused Calderon and Parker going to the hole he should’ve continue that all night long. But no. Why not? I don’t know. Maybe it’s too easy for him and not challenging enough. Maybe he really wants to be a pure shooter. Maybe he’s afraid of contact. Don’t know don’t care all are bad excuses.
This isn’t to say he’s not a star player in this league. He is. Could he be more, probably. I’ve always taken the good with the bad, and been happy enough with the good.
And the most frustrating thing I think is when he drives to the hole with no intention of even trying to get a shot off, just to get fouled. I notice that everytime he tries that the refs just don’t fall for it. You have to atleast try and get the ball in there.
Damn it, now you guys made me go on a rant on Carters negatives. Which is unfair because I could go on an equally long rant about his positives.
Bottom line, He is better then many that made it into the allstar game (Iverson is just a joke…he got traded to Detroit and they’re half the team they used to be now and this is his reward! Way to make take them Pistons down!)and deserved it.
Devin deserved it just as much. He tries at least as much as Carter and is just as important to the success(err….) of this team.

@Croc, yeah, but VC could shoot an even HIGHER percentage then that if he took less fade aways. He could be virtually unstoppable. And about bringing it: Well, Devin isn’t the team Captain, the elder statesman and the rolemodel. When you’re Captain and leader, then these things are looked upon more critically.

@me
   That’s exactly the point! What? Does people think Carter only deserves a spot if he shoots 70% FG and 50% FG?
For God’s sake, his 3-pt % is even higher than Joe Johnson, who’s supposed to be a consistent pure shooter.
People overreacted when VC had a 3-13 night or something, but the fact remains he’s shooting at a higher percentage than most of these reserves, which means those guys also had off nights.
   And when it comes down to it, VC has had plenty of amazing finishes thus far, so he’s definitely not as less “clutch” than the reserves.

croc, I’m not arguing with you, I know VC should have made the team, just getting some other point of views on the situation out.

we need to respect vc age 32, still ability to play 36 mins, his stats sheet is better than others sg. Let us think who is playing around him is a star player, did you see how many people attack him when he drives to the hole, he is getting no call from refs.

I think Devin sets the tone for the Nets. He drives to the basket,(yes he does take some poor shots). But he sets the tone and gets the other team in the penalty and foul trouble. He also pushes the ball. VC is a very good all around player now but doesn’t force the other team to have to game plan for him. They don’t have to double him to get the ball out of his hands because he stands around the 3 pt line most of the time. VC could have easliy been an allstar. But he doesn’t always leave an imprint on a game except for those game winning shots. I think Devin was the right choice for the All Star game.

we were not getting 2 all stars. so the debate has come down to harris – vince. doesnt it always seem that its vince vs a teammate with fans? vs kidd, vs rj, now vs harris.

anyway, there are a couple of things that i think hurt vince.

1- prime time. even when we had kidd we didnt have many national tv games. now since we are rebuilding we wont see any nationally televised games for a while. coaches see Nelson,Lewis and JJ is the main guy on a good hawks team. you are not replacing VC with PP for obvious reasons. so it comes down to Nelson,JJ,Lewis. Magic have been the surprised of the east and have gotten a lot of attention and when you get a lot of attention and play well the coaches recognize that.

2- vc just puts up vc stats. while that is a plus for us and few put up a stat line like vince, he has just been consistent, but doesnt have that spotlight on him anymore. whether its because he doesnt dunk like he used to or or his numbers were too close to a guy like JJ.

if you have player A and player B. both are #1 options for their team and put up similar stats, but player B’s team is 26-19 and player A’s team is 20-26 who are you going to pick as a coach? Player B aka JJ.

so it comes down to do Nelson and Lewis deserve it more than vince? nelson i think has played great and has been key for them, so i think it comes down to Lewis. personally i dont think so, but i can understand it.

say you take out Lewis for vince. we would have 2 reps, same as the celtics and magic and more than the cavs. sorry but that wouldnt fly.

if you want to make this devin-v-vince, then thats another tough thing for vince to overcome. Devin burst onto the scene and has stood out since day 1. its easier to make a bigger impression when you burst on the scene than making a big impression when youve put up consistent numbers for a bunch of years.

while we see vince daily and think devin and vince are deserving, well most of us, you have to look at it from the outside. how do other coaches view it? well i think those are some reasons why vince didnt make it and may not make another AS in his career.

Is good to see a Net go. Rather it be VC or Devin. In the future I expect Lopez and Yi to make it also.

@Supreme
   I don’t know what games you’re watching. Devin sets the tone because he has the ball 80% of the time. VC was perfectly fine when he had to run the PG in games when Devin was out. Also, in those close games, VC’s presence was felt on both ends. NEts fans who watched every game this season wouldn’t miss out those great hustles VC had.
As a driving PG, Devin has been shooting it a ridiculously low average since the Mavs game (the Nets broadcasters discussed it). VC has been doing everything this season, and Devin’s breakout is simply on the offensive end (with a sharp increase also in turnovers).

I’ve watched all NJ games at NBA League Pass, you are right, Devin has the ball 80% of the time, even Dooling on Yes network show discussed about Devin. He is the point guard, not the shooting guard, he needs to pass the ball and trust your teammates, then vc won’t relied on his own jumpshots.

@croc

I said Devin sets the tone which he does. I think they’ve only won one game that he hasn’t played in. also he has the second most free throws in the 4th qtr in the league. Say what you want about Vc but rarely does he go on scoring tears that force the other teams to defend him. And yes I’ve seen EVERY game. yes Devin has struggled this month and is still learning. But that’s why I think VC is too nice and makes it easy to guard him. Star have to be selfish sometimes. The first qtr of the Raptors game is how he should play EVERY game and the entire game. His talent is rediculous. When devin is in the game he forces the other team to defend him. He may not be shooting a high percentage this month but he is still learning his role and being aggresive. I like him and Brook for the future.

VC is a Vet and this has always been the same with him. VC is a nice guy but I never have seen that fire that winners play with. He is amazing (sometimes) and will have good stats with this team. Part of the reason for that is who else on the team is going to get stats? He and Devin are the Nets right now. But in a year or two it’s gonna be Devin and Lopez and Yi if continues to develop . I’d rather Devin learn on the job while expectations are low. VC will be long gone before these young players develop. That’s why I’m glad Devin took the last shot against Toronto.

The question is has anyone ever done less with more talent than VC? I think VC has more skills than any player I’ve ever seen. But not the desire to win. he’s so nice that he LET Devin take the last shot against the Raptors. He had the ball and could have easliy taken that last shot. But that’s him. here young fella give it a try. But that’s not what MJ, Kobe or D Wade would have done and he has the same if not more talent than all of them.

That’s not the question. We’re not here to evaluate VC’s overall career. We’re not here to discuss who’s the future and who’s not. We’re here to discuss whether Devin has actually had more contribution that VC this year. Here’s my questions about your rationale!

1) VC has done an amazing job running the point when Devin was out. Yes, they didn’t win many games, but that’s because Devin is a major scorer. If it was VC out, the Nets would also be unable to win game. So, just because they didn’t win without Devin would not mean he’s more important than VC. In fact, VC averaged over 10 assists a couple times when Devin was out—so he actually attempted to fill in for Devin by distributing the ball. What about Devin? When VC was out, did Devin go on a hot shooting streak to make up the scoring? The point is no.
My point is that VC has been doing everything this year. Devin has only done is on the offensive end, and not even so much on distributing (check the assist-turnover ratio).
 
2) And stats is not just about the numbers, the piling up of points and rebounds. Stats also indicate “EFFICIENCY”. Devin is far from being “efficient” and it’s written all over on the stats. For a PG who is best with his driving game, getting to the line so much, why do I see him chucking up shots regularly that barely hit the rim??? If you call out VC for not driving the ball enough, I think Devin is equally guilty for shooting the ball like he’s MJ or something.

@less than supreme
“has anyone ever done less with more” You need to spend
some time checking out Vince’s career. High school,
Florida state champion, started and delivered with
Antoin Jameson at NC, A Top draft pick into the NBA,
NBA All-star Dunk champion. Kobe calls him “The best
dunker ever, He’s special.” 4 times, the number one
overall all-star vote getter. Is it 7 all-star games?
Olympic Gold Medalist; The owner of what is known
as “The Dunk” over French 7-footer Franz Vasquez.
Career stats that rival any in the NBA. Great playoff
game results and numerous game winning shots.

To suggest he’ll be “long gone” disregards his contract
with the Nets.
Every season with the Raptors, Vince had a new coach;
tough to grow a program when you’re playing musical
chairs with your coaches.
The Nets “big three” had the J Kidd’s team moniker.
Then the Kritic injury, followed by the RJ as first
option experiment.
This is the first time in NJ that anyone suggested
that this is Vince’s team; Devin stated immediately,
in the media that this was “his team.”

@croc

My Point is this.

1.Whenever Devin gets credit VC fans feel the need to put him down. I’ve read a number of your posts and you always include Devin, who is a fellow Net, when you’re arguing for how good Vince is. My point is Devin AND Vince are the Nets. Just like you said they can’t win without either one of them. But people like you feel the need to boost Vince and down Devin. I bring up Vince’s career because he should be MUCH better than Devin with his ability. But he doesn’t have the desire. It’s who he is.

2. True effeciency is very important. And they are both virtually even. Check the stats at NBA.com and you’ll see that Vince is at 20.17 and Devin is 20.15. This includes pts, rbs, stls, assits, blks, free throw and fg%.

3. So this goes to my initial point of you saying how much better Vince is than Devin. If you’re a Nets fan you’ll see that they both are very good and there’s no need to always include a player on YOUR team when comparing how great Vince is. If you’re a Nets fan and not just a Vince fan you’d see the good in both.

@oldjersey

lol…You’re kidding right? Check the ring finger of D Wade, Kobe and MJ. Do you know how many players that weren’t winners had great stats and highlights? Question old geezer? Does Vince have more natural talent than Michael Jordan, Kobe and D Wade? Once you say yes ask yourself why he never even came close to winning an NBA championship. He IS the alltime greatest dunker! But there are tons of people that can dunk. Dominique Wilkins was a great dunker. You’re brining up hich school championships? lol. Every player in the league is probably a high school champ with all the high school records. He is a highlight reel. But he’s very far from using that to be a winner.

Yi in the as game. LOL. Maybe when they play it in China.

I was mostly responding to those who rip Carter and give all the credits to Devin. I am fine with people who think both VC and Devin are important to the team. If I’m responding to posters who only praised Devin, it’d only make sense for me to include my take on Devin’s negatives.
I think even the articles mentioned VC as the overall better player, along with the leadership he’s provided the team. I like the way Devin played in November because he was extremely efficient without hogging the ball. Since then, i think he became more selfish, and many non-VC fans appeared to have observed that.

@supreme

Kobe needed Shaq; D wade needed Shaq; MJ needed
Pippin;Paul Pierce needed KG; Magic needed Kareem;
Put Vince with Dwight or possibly Shaq & he could
earn a ring too. Vince has not been paired with
a complementary player of championship caliber.
There are way more talented players out there
without rings than with.

Wade, Kobe and MJ take over games, put teams on their backs and make the players around them much better. VC has never shown that ability. Even though I agree that he hasn’t been paired with any hof players other than JKidd. I don’t wnat to dog VC because I like him. During the Nets Championship runs J Kidd imposed his will and was a dominant player and that made his team better. I want to see VC do that. Will your team to win. And even if you don’t get a ring people will know you’re a warrior. I root for him to play well not bad. And I hope he elevates the Nets to a championship team.

well supreme, I think we’ve come to common ground;
Vince, Devin, Brook, Yi, and all the Nets are a team.
Go Nets…