marcus ill miss u but dont say the nets didnt give opprutuniies you know ow much orotunities u had lat year u strted mabe 1o games come on marcsus

^ But they wanted him to be an all star, maybe that’s not what he was. He was really good when he started, but no in my opinion he did not get the right amount of PT.

I agree with him, although I think it was all for the best and completely justified. He wasn’t getting many minutes behind Kidd, and then when Kidd was out he usually did well. Then Harris came in an Marcus was immediately given the boot. He needs a team like the warriors to get the minutes he needs to develop himself.

Great job Frank. Once again you provided your young players with the confidence they needed to succeed.

This coach might be the absolute worst in the league.

@ eLone

I agree, he’s got to be the worst coach in the league EVER.

Kidd was the real coach of the Nets. And I would not be surprised that Frank got the coaching job as Kidd was his benefactor because he sucked up to him. As we know, Kidd is a coach destroyer and/or maker. Frank is a good video man and his coaching derives from being a video room rat. But that does not translate to being a capable coach. The Nets won because they were veteran, talented players. But when it comes down to developing the full potential of a talented rookie, Frank probably is the worse coach and God help the present batch of rookies the Nets now have.

can’t argue anything you guys said.Frank will do a better job but as this team grows ,it will need a prime time coach.

Marcus needs to stop lying. Blatantly lying, how many mistakes can you make playing defense, defense is about defense yoiu either want to play it or you dont. Also is idea of offense is to come upcourt dribble the ball our top for 20 sewconds and then try to figure out what to do. Good Riddance!!!!!!!

I agree with biged. He had plenty of opportuities to play and show what he could do. Of course the coach has to give him a short leash. If you don’t get it doen you don’t get the confidence of anyone. Are you guys saying he should have had playing time at the expense of Kidd? That’s foolish. Frank isn’t a good coach. But you can’t blame EVERYTHING on him. Marcus is a pro and should have goteen that body fat off years ago. He wasn’t in shape and didn’t play D. That’s on him not Frank!

Watch out for SWilliams. The Nets are fielding him out for possible trade. I wonder why. Such talented physical specimen. Is he another casualty of “Frank’s development program”?

Marcus had better players in front of him while on the Nets. That won’t be the case in GS, and we’ll all be watching to see if he can be the player he thinks he is. He’ll probably have some nice offensive stats, and the Warriors will be bounced in the first playoff round if they make it at all. Perhaps his early season injury contributed, but he definitely regressed last year as a playmaker.

I’m happy for him and wish him the best, but statements like this support the deal. He was going to get increasingly frustrated on the bench and his value would only have declined, so a first round pick for him works for both sides.

Marcus did not play well, but he has raw a lot of talent. He may mature but I doubt he will ever have the on court smarts it takes to make a special point guard.

Marcus, you had many opportunities and you did not cash in on them: you were out of shape and did not have a good attitude and never worked on your defense. What do you expect? Rondo was considered less talented than you and many predicted you would have a better career (Okay, it’s early) but Rondo got it and worked on it and showed he could play both ends of the court effectively. Now, you did not show a pulse on the d (Famous quote: MWilliams could not guard a bank with a gun, or something like that)and you never fully showed you could run an offense. Yes, you had flashes, but you remind me of someone who thinks you deserve it or are entitled to it and don’t have to work at it. Rondo worked, as did your other peers like Farmar etc. You have yet to work. Maybe the trade will shake you up, but judging from your demeanor, I doubt it. Yeah, it’s hard to play behind Kidd, but when you were behind Harris, you showed just as little. Don’t blame the coach, folks, not even Mwilliams would do that. Blame the man himself: stand up for once MWilliams.

I hope Marcus blossoms in CA. It wasn’t going to happen in NJ.
It’s hard to counter his comment that he was playing not to make mistakes. Anyone here ever been in that situation? That probably accounts for all the dribbling…paralysis… I am not a Frank hater, but I do think he may be more suited to be an assistant coach than head coach. Not having played, the game for him is too abstract. There are some players that respond to his approach—-Boone, Collins…but others not so much…swill, mwill…That may be true of many coaches but it seems to be moreso the case with Frank than most. I hope Thorne begins evaluating Frank more closely. Unfortunately the Nets have a crop of new ass’t coaches—unproven—-and a crop of new players—-unproven—-so Frank will be given a long, long leash, I’m afraid.

Lying my azz. LF is a player killer. Mwill was constantly looking over his shoulder, noone can play ball like that. LF wouldn’t know talent even if, he had some himself. I’m a hater of haters so there’s no reason to continue.

Marcus didn’t attempt to play any defense, he overdribbled way too much, and clearly, was only concerned about his own shot and not creating anyone else’s. With that said, i do believe he was playing not to make mistakes. Antione Wright and most of the younger guys were playing the same way if you ask me…Frank is a garbage coach that cannot instill any confidence in his players or teach them effectively, you don’t coach rookies thru fear. Frank would let the veterans blow defensive assignment after defensive assignment and he’d stick with them, but let the kids screw up, they’d get yanked right out of the game, and i found that to be counter productive. You don’t sit there and let Malik Allen allow the defense to score several times and not blink an eye, then turn around and bench Sean for not being where he’s supposed to be on defense. I’m sure i’m not the only who noticed that kind of crap taking place last year.

Still, Marcus was not in the best of shape, he rarely played like he wanted to succeed, and he didn’t play the PG position to the best of his abilities. Good luck to him in GS, because if he does his thing out there, that will make Lawrence Frank look horrible.

@Mr Dollar Bills
Completely agree. I noticed a long time ago Marcus was playing not to make mistakes and get pulled out of the game rather than just playing HIS game. It’s hard to be on the court and know 1 mistake will have you benched, meanwhile Kidd and RJ can play imaginary defense and they stay on the court. It appears Frank just does not like to play rookies ala Don Nelson, but he doesnt realize the rookies have to be let play in order for them to become the savvy vets you want. Just look at what happened in the season when Don Nelson didnt want to play Josh Howard and Marquis Daniels their rookie year, they ended up being 2 of his best players and helped in the playoffs. The only reason Frank started Sean Williams is because there was so much fan and media outcry at the fact that Collins and Allen were starting and they were both being ineffective offensively AND defensively. Frank finally puts Sean out there and then pulls him the second he makes a mistake, but lets Collins and Allen play all game while doing absolutely zero. I also think Frank didnt work with Sean as much as he could to correct his mistakes because he was upset his authority was being questioned by the media and fans asking for Sean to start. Frank is the type of coach who has to feel he is in complete control, otherwise he’s upset and frustrated. I’ve seen plenty managers/executives like him in the corporate world. That need for power attitude doesnt work long-term and only makes the employees feel like you are suffocating them until they get tired and tune you out and that seems to be what has been happening with the Nets. Rod Thorn needs to swallow the pill and take the lecture from Ratner, but Frank needs to be fired/demoted ASAP. Frank could be an assistant as long as he has a real head coach he can learn from and maybe later on he would get it and could move back up in another franchise. I dont see ANY other team offering him the head coaching spot as of today.

This is all LF’s fault

He is the worst coach…. All of the rookies play not to make mistakes then ultimitaly fall out of the game because the coach is constantly breathing down there necks… LET THEM PLAY!

Agree with BigEd, geo and supreme. This guy got a massive opportunity and did little to take advantage of it. He was clearly positioned to be the PG of the future when JKidd’s contract ran out and he showed little interest in the job. The quote on Marcus is he could not guard a bank with a machine gun. So what coach would sit a HOF PG for any length of time to let a liability like Marcus get lit up? You’d have to be crazy to do that. Marcus was so lacking in passion, I thought he was a throwback to the late 70s Knicks. Maybe he will grow up or maybe playing for Nelson will just click, I don’t know.

Point Blank it doesnt even matter if we had Jarred Bayless or Rose any PG under Frank doesnt achieve so all yall non knowning Marcus doubters need to stop.

This was probably discussed ad nauseum when it happened (Netsdaily is a newly discovered gold mine for me: GO DUMPY GO), but does anyone know how he broke his foot/toe last year before training camp? Was it a box full of laptops or a legit injury? Maybe that was the straw that broke LF and Thorn’s patience…

Marcus was a star in college, but he simply has not yet shown that he has NBA level talent. Obviously there are a numbers of fans who post here who must be either UConn fans who are loyal to him or maybe even know him and support him. I am sorry but he just has not shown to be good enough for the NBA.

Look at what actually happened. He showed some early promise as a rookie. He looked good with that drive down the left side of the lane and then connected with the pull up J. Or he went all the way to the hoop. But then the league put those moves in the book on him. And he was defensed. All he could do after that was throw the ball out of bounds on his penetrations. Then came important games at the end of the season. The Nets were on the verge of an important win in Detroit. In came Marcus in the 4Q. Billings and Hunter used him like a turnstile and took over the game. Then in the playoffs against Toronto, Marcus put the Nets in a big hole in the 2Q that the Nets could not climb out of. After that, Frank did not play Marcus again for the rest of the playoffs. What a horrible coach? name some coaches that would have continued to trust Marcus, don’t bother, there aren’t any. These are facts, please tell me how I am a know nothing hater….believe me, I have no reason to hate Marcus and I do not…I just have seen with my own eyes that he could not get it done.

I think blame falls on both Marcus and Coach Frank, Marcus for not working hard on defense and Frank for not letting him play through his mistakes, I do hope Marcus does well at Golden State and I hope that Frank learns from his mistakes this past season and he’ll hopefully let his young guys play through whatever mistakes they may make.

Those that claim to know so much need to tell the entire story of what happened with LF & MW since you know so much. Telling the fan version just won’t cut it for me. Now that he’s on a real team with a real coach, we’ll see.

Iam i very big nets fan but i hope my boy marcus williams becomes a great player and it bites the nets in the ass…

KEYON DOOLING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, seeing that Don Nelson is usually too drunk to give a damn if his guards play defense, Marcus should get his fair shake.

Yeah, seeing that LF is too sober to coach and win, Nets are in for another losing season.