Hassel's Hassle "D" Frustrated Bosh ... and his coach

kind of like how Chris Bosh wilted in the face of Jason Collins and resorted to shooting fadeaways in last year’s playoffs

We definitely need to keep Hassell. I know this is a product more of Toronto’s funk than Hassell’s terrific defense, but he’s still a terrific defender and that’s important to have

@ muwu

i like hassell too, but he makes 4.5 mill/year, which is about 3 mill more than he should make

I guess this kills the Jason Collins’ great Defense on Bosh..Now its Hassel..lol..Oh well for all you Collins Lovers..
here’s another tidbit..Both coaches let go in favor of Frank are in the playoffs..AND Eddie Jordan made it without his star player in Arenas..Oh well again to all you Frank Lovers..LMAO!!

I appreciate Trenton’s defense, but I hope he doesn’t end up taking any playing time away from Stromile.

Lmao @ HoldenCaulfield’s lack of BB knowledge and lack of logic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

at net income,

that wasnt very nice, he is entitled to his own opinion even if you dont like it. if you think he doesnt have bb knowledge, insted of giving him a demeaning gesture, you can respond with your point of view. come on, you/re better than that. you are very knowlegeable about basketball i admit, but please dont insult somebody else cause of his opionion.

collins is a very overated defender. i mean thorn and kiki were so quick to dump him off. thorn has been trying to get rid of him for years now, and because of his albatross salary, it was an almost impossible feet. to get stro out of it was just amazing.

ill give collins that much, he’s a good post defender, and is a good help defender. but thats all. he has more flaws on defense that he has positive contributions. he never is able to contest shots. all he does is raise a hand on the opponent. he is very slow laterally. so against quick bigs, he’s almost uselss. his rebounding is atrocious, especially for a 7 ft big man. avearging barely 2 reb per game, and with the nets he averraged about 30 min per game, just does not cut it at the nba level. def. rebounding is essential for any gopod defensive teams. collins cannot jump 2 inches off the floor. plus he gets blown by very easily. and he cant block a shot if his life depended on it. plus he doesnt alter any shots either. and thats what 7 fotters are supposed yto do.

he’s good agaiinst bigger bigs. he can hold his own in the post against them. he takes charges but thats it. the nets were so quick to get rid of him, and it was a miracle they did. if he was just a bit athletic he would be so much better, cause he does have a high basketball iq when it comes to defense. but his body doesnt help him at all. he isnt doing anything special for mamphis. they are still the worst defensive team in the league, or one of them at least.

against bosh, he did do a good job, but anybody with BB knowledge has to addmit it was more bosh’s doing than his. he did disrupt him somewhat, but it was bosh’s first appearence in the big show, and it showed. he wasnt himself. by the time he got more comfortable, in game 6, where collins wasnt a factor anymore, it was all too late. and the raps almost won that game, and if they did, i dont know if the nets are able toi defeat them in game 7 on their home court. so while collins does deserve some credit on bosh, it was more bosh’s doing than his. there’s a reason why the nets didnt want him around. if he was a great defensive pplayer like some of you say, the nets would of gladly kept him, cause those guys dont come around often. but cause of his atheltic liabilies, he’s close to uselss, especially taking into account his awful, or non existent offense.

in the frank subject, the onlyu reason he got the job is because kidd hand picked him. kidd had problemms with scotts overpowering style of coaching, so he knew a guy like frank would basically let him do as he wish without any rstarints. frank is a decent coach, but lets admit it, ever since he took over the nets, the franchise has been in a downward spiral. he tries very hard, works very hard, has an idea about the game, but coaching is so much more than that. the intangibles is what franks lacks in. the relation with his players, bringing out the bets in his players, young player development, style of play implemented to suite the type of players he has(motion offense), respectability from players, leadership, consistancy of play and style of play, creating an identity, able to hold your star players accoutable before any other players, player communications. these are points that i fell that frank has not entirely succeeded in.

he’s too easy on his star players, which has a ripple effect on the rest of the players. even though al mcinnis isnt a player that you take his word, he did say that frank traets his top 3 players differently from the others, which isnt right. too many youngsters havnt developed properly under frank, and you cant blame him cause since he hasnt been in their shoes he cant relate. you know if it was just one or two players that havent developed to what the expectations were, then maybe , but almost every yougster in the organzation since frank has been coached hasnt developed. kroistic is the only one, but his situation was different. he was the only big they had in his rookie year, and he had no choice but to play him. and playing with kidd and carter, all the open shots he got helped him alot, just ask mikki moore. boone hasnt developed a lick. he’s the exact same player from college but with more confidence cause of the playing time. he cant still make an open layup at times, and especially in traffic, and he is so challenged ooffensively still. you would think he would at least have a couple of moves with all that playing time, or at least make his layups, which he gets so many of. before kiki arrived he shot free throws at a 30 % clip. [people kept on satying that it wasnt franks fault and there was nothing he could do about it. kiki spent a couple of sessios with him, and his free thoroew improved dramatically. he rebounds well, but still doesnt box out most of the time. and frank had him playing out of position all the time at the 5. frank says that sean is too small to be a four and to big to be a 3, which is ludicrous, he is a prototypical 4 in the NBA. so why dfosn he have boone at the 5 and nachbar at the 4, which has affected his season boig time.

also antoine wright hasnt developed into what the nets hoped he would be. he is very athletic player, and has a decent shot, and is a pretty good slasher and defender, but he isnt consistant, the whole nets problem. he could of been a good one. sean and marcus are probably the two most prized youngsters in the organization(besiodes harris who is sort of a vet now going into his fifth year). marcus’ skill set is second to none among pg in the league. he has all the tools to gbe a star. he’s a scorer, and a playmaker. we all saw what he can do when he started for that stretch, and that was after he was in the doghouse for about 2 mth. sean is gifted. he started the season full of confidence, but wasa still benched in favor of collins and allen. then got his playong time back and the nets went on that run. than he sat for a while, came back to be a sub, and was exactly what the nets needed off the bench energy. he sowed a bit of everthing, defense and offense. most rookie rankings had him at the top 3 for months in the season. but after his rookie sophmore excellent showing, he came back to find jghimslef in franks doghouse.

confidence is everything for those yougsters. everyboody says that they dont play defense. but sean was a defensive anchor when he played before allstar break, and marcus, outside that indiana game away when he started, was pretty decent. and defense ios all coaching. these guys are all athletes, especially sean, so they can patch up against the opposition. defense is coached, its not a gift. some players take more prode into it, but its mostly coaching. and they are not the only nets not playong defense. bioki has been horrific, rj has played a lick of defense all year, carter didnt play any defense when kidd was here, but did dtep up after the trade, and none of the rest of the players did play any better defense than both of theese guys. so to pick on them with that is unfair.

confidence is everything with youngsters. and consistent playing time too. when frank has allen and collins and boki ahead of sean, and armstrong ahead of marcus, how do you expect them to learn and gain experieance which are key to development. and since frank has never been in their dshoes, and never has played the game at any level, he cant teach them certain things that only players know about. and his coaching staff is worth shit. only carttwright and hill are recognizable, but barisse and sullivan are absotlutely uselss. it would help frank graetly if he surrounded himself with guys who kmnow some things about the NBA game. ex players, or ex assistant coahes. these guys arnt helping the development of these youngsters. get a guy like ron harper and luucas. guys who can specialuze in helping out the rookies.

the nets are going in a different direction ton previous years. when kidd was here, all they thought about was winning the whole thing, so youngsters was at the back burner. but now, they do want to win, but withe youngsters, which has been proevn oit could happoen. it will be critical the next couple of years how the youngsters they have now, and the ones they are gonna get through this years draft pan oout. they cannot affors them not to develop properly. if they do get develoiped preoperly the nets do posses some good young players. sean, boone, diop, marcus, even boki, and the draft picks are the nets futurre. and these are some excellent proxpects. and thats what some top scouts are saying, not just me and some fans.

what bothered me is that in the last couple of games, marcus and sean didnt get enough paying time. the nets are basically eliminated o what is frank waiting for. he started armstrong in the pistons game, which didnt make sense. it seems he heard about it from management cause he didnt get a second the next game. sean only first came in at the 35 sec mark of the end of secon=d quarter aganst the raps. why is frank still holding them back. we all know he never had thre patience with his youngsters, which is a main reason why they didnt pan out yet, but now is the time.

frank will have to change his coaching methods next year if he wants to keep his job. thorn still supports him, but i think the blunder of signing him to an extention is the reason why he is still coaching. but kiki is seeing things wuith a precise and fresh poerspective. ypi can tell sionce kiki has been here he has not been pn ythe same page as frank. first he traded his beloved collins, who if frank jhad any kind of say would f never been traded, then he traded kidd who frank licks his butt daily every moioring along with his top two reserves who everybody hated in wright and allen. so already soem friction hasd debveloped. but thorn is fiscally responsible, and thrwoing 9 mill isnt easy to swallow, especially when he recommended him to ratner.

next year his jopb wont hinge on making the playoffs or not, it will hinge on player development. cause if he fails in that department, evertything that thorn and kiki are doing is all for not. if he is able to develop the youngsters to where they are supposed to be( a couple of real asst coaches would help) then he keeps his job for another year.

but yes, scott and jordan are doing unbelievable jobs, and are making thorns decisions about letting themgo real bad, especially scott. if he had took a stand at kidd, then the nets would be much better now. but it was hard since kidd had taken them to two finals appearences. i think now after watching what scott is doing in NO, and what happened after he left, it was more scottts doing than kidds.

anyways, ets hope for the nets sake frank is able to rebound next year, cause next year there wont be any excuses to dish out, cause i think fans, thorn and the whole organization have run out of them. i mean jeff van gundy got fired after a coouple of 50 win seasons, and after leading his team to the playoffs and winning 50 with mcgarddy and yapo hurt for half the season. carlisle first got fired from dettroit after two 50 win seasons, and fron indianana dewspite what happened there with the brawl and all ande injuries galore and was still able to win 4-0 last year with a woorst team than obrien has this year. its unbelievable frank still has his job with the expectations that are set uin the NBA.

if i was thorn i would sacrifice the 9 mill for the good of the team. nop matter what frank’s defenders say, since he has took over the team has regressed every year and the bar has been set lower and lower. and like i said every excuse has been thrown for him. addie jordan is making the playoffs this year after so many injuries to his best players. when arenas whent down they won, when butler went down too, they still won, when butler came back and jamison and arenas were out they won. he developed his yopungsters, and they have an idnetity, a style of play no matter who plays on the court. wehn carter goes out they cant score and get blown out everytime, thats a sign of coaching. and no matter what anybody says the nets have talent. ask thorn and kiki anout that, opr ask cheeks about that, he rather have the nbets roster anyday than his own at philly.

my choices are if frank gets fired are pretty obviuous larry brown, rick carlisle, jeff van gundy and marc jackson. these are coaches who will teach the fundementals of the game and will not settle for anything less than perfection. and they will also apply defensive principles which franbk has been unable to do. and most importantly they all have a track record, except marc jackson but he’s so highly rated among the top executives in the league, of developing young talent.

frank is on a short leach, and i predict if his team has his slkow pattented starts, he’s a goner.

Thats your rebuttal??..coming from you thats a compliment NetIncome it really is..What part of that statement was false? Are the Hornets not in the playoffs? Was Arenas not out and the Wiz STILL made the playoffs..Did Hassel NOT do a good job of defending Bosh? Are the nets going to make the playoffs?Your someone who just disagrees for the sake of it without any logical reason. If someone says right you’d say left..All I can say is check the record every year since Scott left, I guaranteed the Nets wouldnt make the playoffs with Frank as coach and i’ll do it again if he’s coach again next year..

@ holden … ditto!

@ mina … ditto!

interesting that you mentioned ron harper because harper has a house just a few miles from kidd’s old stomping grounds in northwest bergen county … i believe harper’s wife is from the area … harper knows bill cartwright from their years together on the bulls and he knows mark jackson from their years together on the clippers … i would love to see a coaching staff with guys like cartwright, harper, mario elie and darrell armstrong on it … guys who are passionate, can communicate and who the playes respect … but as for the head coach, the only guys i’m interested in are mark jackson and rick carlisle … larry brown and jeff van gundy are extremely knowledgable coaches, but i don’t believe players trust brown anymore or respect van gundy … van gundy to me is just a rich man’s lawrence frank