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Nets Can't Get the One They Were Supposed To

This was supposed to be the one they won. But the Nets may be looking at a winless trip through the Southwest Division, because they couldn't beat the Grizzlies in Memphis Wednesday night. It was a game of runs and the Nets, after trailing by double-digits early on, led by as many as 10 midway through the third quarter. But it was tied after three and the Grizzlies took the lead for good with a 9-3 run to start the fourth. The Nets were within two with just over a minute to go, but a Hakim Warrick three-point play made it a two-possession game and the Nets never got a chance to tie. Warrick led all scorers with 25 points and Mike Miller added 22 for Memphis. Richard Jefferson led the Nets with 22, but did not score in the final 18 minutes. Devin Harris added 20 points and eight assists, but was 0-for-6 from downtown. The silver lining was Nenad Krstic, who had his best game since his return, scoring 16 points on 8-of-13 from the field, and grabbing nine boards.

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Lottery here we come!

by Joe on Mar 5, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

The Nets are done. I don’t believe anymore. HOW DO YOU LOSE TO A TEAM THAT HAS WON 14 GAMES AND YET BEHIND THE SIXERS WHO BEAT PHOENIX. This was a pathetic utterly pathetic and embarassing the Nets don’t deserve to be in the playoffs at all. Just quit because thats apparently thats all the Nets are good at. I’ am disgusted this is the one game we should of won!!!!! The Nets will end the season with a losing record and we will be lucky to make the playoffs. The Nets suck, we suck so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by JerseyCityNetsFan on Mar 5, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

0-5? We’re so lucky the Hawks are losing right now.

by kevin on Mar 5, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Frank is such a great coach. His defensive mentality is obviously having such a great impact on this team. And his new offensive scheme is one of the best in the NBA. Frank out smarted everyone by putting Carter and Hassel on 6-9 Hakim Warrick. they really shut him down. Sean why play him or Diop when you have Nenad blocking everything that comes in. Then putting Marcus on Mike Miller? Great Move. It was also a great idea to tell everyone to keep shooting, because Harris, and Marcus were on fire.

by Jerrod on Mar 5, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Rj took a night off last night. So VC thought it was only fair for him to take one off tonight? Truly pathetic Vince

by Jay on Mar 5, 2008 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

They should fire Frank. It is just not working. His true ability as a coach is showing. Without Kidd he is at most a third rate coach. Carter should be traded for pennies. For his money, he is so parasitic. Living off other peoples’s back.

by edd on Mar 5, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

hahaha i love the urgency on this team also jerrod, i mean dont u feel that they wanna win sooo badly? And exactly sean shouldnt play bc who needs shot blocking wen they only drive the lane about every time and everybody near the rim lets him go?

by alex on Mar 5, 2008 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

the only person we should be blaming is frank.. he’s offensive plays are horrible.. you can see he wants carter to always be at the corner spots and try to somehow get a double team on some1 else so carter will be open , but it’s not working!! and he still does the same play over and over again… he should play carter in the paint and not make him into a passer aka 3 point shooter.. so the real problem is frank… on a side note.. bryan hill(assistant coach) and frank just to be couches for the vancouver grizzles.. look how they did .. and look how nets r doing now.. theres your answer

by OGzy on Mar 5, 2008 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

everyone is blamin vc..i dont like how all of a sudden devin harris thinks he runs this team..back to back nights wit 17 shots..thats not wat hes ment to do..or go 0 for 6 from three tonight!!i mean hes got talent but he needs to chill out

by Mikey V on Mar 5, 2008 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

im pissed but i wasnt surprised because the grizzlies were on a big losing streak. i think we can still make the playoffs if we can win 2 of the 3 next games but i doubt it

by BEN on Mar 5, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

hey everyone you could be upset about the lost but dont give up on them just take the lost and get ready for next game
right now these are the standings
1 .celtics 47-12
2 .piston 44-17
3. magic 40-23
4 .cavs 35-26
5 .raptors 33-27
6. wizards 29-31
7. sixers 28-33
8.nets 26-35
9.hawks 24-35
10.bulls 24-36
11.pacers 24-37
12. bucks 23-38
13.bobcats- lottery
14. knicks-lottery
15.heat- lottery
look at that the nets are in 8th dont say they stink because they lost t memphis i admit that game the nets should of won but the nets have a good chance of making playoffs and maybe 7 or 6
go nets!

by joe t nets on Mar 5, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

2 Losses to Memphis
1 to Miami
1 to Minnesota
3 TO THE KNICKS
2 to the Clippers
1 to the Bobcats
1 to the Hornets (which they should have never lost/2 four point plays!)
1 to the depleted Kings at home

12 games they should have won. They would have had a decent record if they won these games they were supposed to.

Blame the coach maybe. You cannot lose all those games to awful teams.

I am getting sick of this crap. I cannot believe they are still a game ahead for the 8 seed.

The Nets are pathetic right now.

by Joe P. on Mar 5, 2008 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

didnt get a chance to watch the game but its not a good thing when 4 players have taken more shots than VC.. the nets stink.. frank sucks.. you ruined my week, thanks jack***!

by yeaaaman on Mar 5, 2008 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

@ jerrod: lol

we’re now 0-7 against the grizzlies, clippers and knicks this season … 0 and bleeping 7 … hey rod thorn, how’s that contract extension for frank working out for you?! … boy, what a relief that we have frank locked up through 2010 … can you imagine the bidding war for him if he was a free agent coach this summer … teams would be lining up for his services … we sure dodged a bulllet on that one … lol

by newark hawk on Mar 5, 2008 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe Lottery is what the Nets want. Remember Boston Celtic’s last season?
Strategy to get in to the lottery, I hope not.

by Nodar Rode on Mar 5, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

That’s right Jerrod….

I believe Frank is one of the best coaches in the NBA. His in game decisions are 2nd to none. Frank is going to have a one way ticket to the hall of fame someday.

Thank goodness thorn never got rid of him. I surely feel blessed he is still here and that the nets are so well coached… He just makes one great decision after another…lol

Thank you Rod, Rat and kiki…for keeping frank around…just imagine a nets team without such a great coach like Frank….

I mean the last thing the Rat wants is for this team to make the playoffs…So frank fits in perfectly…

Lottery…here we come…

by Pablo on Mar 5, 2008 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

soft coach = soft team

sorry lawrence, i know you have such a great basketball resume` … you were such a great college and nba player … you were such a great college coach … you were such a great nba coach before coming to the nets … i know that you’re a proven winner at all levels of the game and deserve the benefit of the doubt … but sorry lawrence

soft coach = soft team

by newark hawk on Mar 5, 2008 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

i have an idea … the nets should blow it up and get new players in here that frank can coach!!! … oops, i forgot, we just did that

maybe, just maybe, it’s not the players after-all

by newark hawk on Mar 5, 2008 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, we’re even worse than I thought. This team just doesn’t work. None of the pieces fit right and nobody actually wants to win. Losing is acceptable and nobody is held accountable. Frank keeps his job no matter what.

How is it that a FIFTEEN WIN team plays with more heart and emotion than a team that’s actually in a Playoff spot? It’s unbelievable how poorly Frank gets through to these guys. It’s officially over.

Devin Harris reminds me of Marbury. He’ll put up the stats, but he’s not a guy you can rely on to be an actual PG.

by ty on Mar 5, 2008 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

Why would anyone want the Nets to make the playoffs? so they can get destroyed in the 1st round..Keep Frank until the end of the season which will assure a lottery pick because with him as coach no way this team makes the playoffs get a lottery pick or package the picks for an all-star type player..Thorn had his shot at Adelman and blew it, Rick Carlise would be ok with me..

by holdencaufield718 on Mar 6, 2008 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

“Memphis also held Vince Carter to a quiet 12 points and he was actually heard to say ’I’m ready to get out of here’ midway through the 4th quarter.”

Is this for real?? If it is, then Carter should be shut down for the rest of the year and then traded over the summer. I don’t care if it costs us every remaining game. Is he serious??

by boki on Mar 6, 2008 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

Frank for “Coach Of The Year”

Vince Slaughter for MVP

by 732_Franchise on Mar 6, 2008 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not blaming Vince for the loss, Vince really can’t do anything with constant doubles coming at him and the coach is putting him in terrible positions on defense and offense

by Hector on Mar 6, 2008 2:27 AM EST reply actions  

To be fair, they get very little opportunity to practice at this point in the season and there’s a bunch of new people who don’t know the plays, and players who barely know one another. It’s reasonable to use Harris as a shooting guard. He is shooting 48% for the season—-he’s not Kidd. Marcus needs to continue to get playing time and he’s the better passer. I don’t think it’s such a bad idea to play them at the same time. What I don’t understand is why swill is a DNP game after game. Why Hassell and Swift get minutes while swill gets none is mystifying UNLESS we are in evaluation mode rather than playoff mode. Maybe Thorn expects Frank to use the players they received in the trade and get Krstic back in shape to see what they can do, having seen enough of swill to determine that he can play at NBA level. As is, Frank is neither winning games nor developing players. Making the playoffs with this poor a record is meaningless. They will do nothing if they get there anyway. It is just possible that the Nets know this and are just trying to see how the parts fit together—personnel evaluation for the draft and free agency period. Having said that, it’s not much fun to watch. In fact, it’s infuriating if you’re hoping to win a game because the decisions don’t seem to be geared toward that result. It would be more fun to watch if swill were out there…

by MH on Mar 6, 2008 2:30 AM EST reply actions  

Team is going through a second training camp.

Carter is playing through a chronic ankle injury that affects him most in back to back games.

Team will improve by the end of the season, but its potential will be limited by Carter’s injury.

by dalyc on Mar 6, 2008 2:38 AM EST reply actions  

disgraceful

by dunkenyonutzz on Mar 6, 2008 4:09 AM EST reply actions  

disgraceful

by dunkenyonutzz on Mar 6, 2008 4:09 AM EST reply actions  

Next time after interviewing LFRANK ask him this?
~Coach is it part of your rotations and motion offense the result of having RJ with 18FGA DHARRIS with 17FGA Krstic13FGA Marcus Williams 13FGA AND your 65million superstar staying in the corner most of the night ,taking 11FGA for the whole game(while guys like TMAC KOBE LEBRON WADE Gilbert taking 11FGA in a quarter).
OK he said in the interview defense was the problem but come on…………I would love to see the answer to this question

by notgood4u on Mar 6, 2008 5:34 AM EST reply actions  

Hakim Warrick really lit the Nets up. And to think, the Nets could’ve drafted him instead of Antoine Wright (Rod passed on Danny Granger as well). Oh well, lottery here we come.

Who knows, if the Nets get lucky, they could win the Michael Beasley sweepstakes. It’s actually fitting because he reminds me a lot of Derrick Coleman.

by Jonathan on Mar 6, 2008 5:51 AM EST reply actions  

This one wasn’t disappointing. This one was embarrassing. I’m not dissapointed with this team. I’m ashamed of this team. I’ve tried to believe in this team. I was excited with Harris’ arrival, especially after his impressive debut performance against Milwaukee, but the main change that has to be made is firing Lawrence Frank.

If this loss isn’t enough to get Frank fired, I can’t imagine what has to happen in order to make Rod Thorn, Kiki Vandeghewe and Bruce Ratner realize that they need to fire this incompetent guy.

The two previous losses against the Spurs, well, you can accept that (even if we played like crap, especially at the offensive end, but we were facing the NBA defending champions after all). But this one is totally inexcusable. We’ve been unable to win a single basketball game against a team like the Memphis Grizziles, one of the worst teams I’ve seem in a while in this league. Don’t forget: prior to this game, they came in a 9-game losing streak. Even with Mike Miller’s return we should have beaten them.

Remember when we lost to them at home? Previously, we loose 5 in a row without VC, then he returns and we closed our first trip to the Western Conference with a 3-game winning streak, including a pair of impressive wins at Portland (the Nets were the first team to win at the Rose Garden this season) and Los Angeles against the Lakers. Then, we return to the Izod Center to face the Grizzlies and we loose.

That was only one of several easy games against mediocre teams we’ve given away throughout the season. Prior to the Kidd trade, we lost to the Knicks three times; two times against the Clippers; we lost at Minnesota and at Charlotte; Sacramento won us at home without Mike Bibby, Kevin Martin and Abdur-Rahim.

And now, we made a good trade and I was very excited about this team, but we’re beginning to make the same old mistakes.

I think this team is talented enough to make the playoffs, but Frank has proven that he’s totally unable to make this guys play their best. Nets’ inconsistency is a mark of Frank’s personality and coaching. Frank has had multiple excuses for such a bad season: injuries (VC, Curly, M-Will, even Harris was injured when he was acquired), Kidd’s boycott, the changes made in the roster, etc., but all those things can’t justify such a miserable defeat like yesterday’s one.

The Nets aren’t going anywhere as long as Lawrence Frank keeps his job. His offensive playbook is so limited, I can’t believe a team like this, with all the offensive weapons Frank has, the Nets are one of the worst offensive teams in the NBA, I think we have the 2nd or 3rd lowest scoring average in the league.

After this loss, I don’t have any faith we could get any win in the final 3 games of the trip (New Orleans, Dallas, Houston), so the playoffs are gonna be a very complicated mission if these guys don’t react and play seriously. When you have such a tough schedule, and you face a team like the Grizzlies (you can’t ask for an easier game during a tough trip like this one), and you lose in such an embarrassing fashion, then, seriously, you can’t think of making the playoffs.

If we keep the 8th seed, it would be because the Eastern Conferece is even weaker than I thought it was. Fortunately, Atlanta and Indiana both lost yesterday, and they couldn’t reduce the difference we had. But if we continue losing, teams like Chicago and the Hawks will finally reach us and will pass us.

by Andrés on Mar 6, 2008 6:24 AM EST reply actions  

As soon as the Griz went into a zone , the nets died. They have no attack and just wither in zone. They settle for outside shots. RJ is supposed to attack the seams of the zone, Krstic is supposed to flash to the seam for an open shot. No movement. Boki and RJ (and Malik Allen who is gone) are their only weopens against the zone, but Boki is hurt and RJ was not RJ last night.

The bigger problem is the d. They let the Griz own the inside. Hakim Warrick and Milochech (how do you spell that?)looked like Jareem and Malone. And of course we still have no inside presence. We trade Kidd and get another wing player. OK Harris is good, but we need a big who can get easy points in the paint. THis summer either Carter or RJ has to turn into a big who can get easy baskets inside. Why? B/C everyone knows if you zone the Nets, they wilt.

by geo on Mar 6, 2008 7:00 AM EST reply actions  

I had never commented about anything in this site about the team or frank and it was fun reading the others comments.But enough is enough!clearly this team isnt working physically or mentally and when the problem is so fierce You HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE!all in all a replacement of a coach should be made because i think most of the nets players are starting to get tired of the coaches schemes and they are expressing it in public!the respect is gone the trust is gone…nothing more to do but dismiss!

by papfankon on Mar 6, 2008 7:24 AM EST reply actions  

As Joe P above stated…

2 Losses to Memphis
1 to Miami
1 to Minnesota
3 TO THE KNICKS
2 to the Clippers
1 to the Bobcats
1 to the Hornets (which they should have never lost/2 four point plays!)
1 to the depleted Kings at home

Yup! Frank sure knows how to prepare a team and get the best out of his players!

by Larry Brown on Mar 6, 2008 8:06 AM EST reply actions  

We got the talent, but the coach just isnt rite, send LF to NCAA!!!!

by Iftekhar on Mar 6, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Everyone hates on Frank, but what coach would be able to deal with all these player changes and drama and have a much more better record. Its not like a new coach would come in and say, ’Play defense" and then all the sudden the nets become unstoppable.

Its everyone. Not Frank. Get that through your heads. These are grown men running the floor and creating their own situations if plays fall apart. They should be making shots and not getting picked off on high screens so much.

by Trenton on Mar 6, 2008 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

The problem with this team is not coaching alone, it is they have a roster full of players who only show up sporadically. Eveeryone plays well once every four or five games, everyone plays well two quarters out of four, or two possessions out of four, or on offense but not defense. No one shows up for 48 mins, night in and night out. Lineup changes, substitution patterns are meaningless with these guys – they are no more effective than flipping a coin.

by Mt57 on Mar 6, 2008 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

We all know this already!! LFrank sucks!!

What I want to see is an organization of this mess on our parts.

What I would suggest, is that on every article by Al Iannazone, Dave D, Garcia, Kerber etc…we reply in theis posts only this: WE DON’T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT LFRANK GETS FIRED NOW!!!!!

When they write up about Kidd in Dallas: WE DON’T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT LFRANK GETS FIRED NOW!!!!!

When they write about the next Nets’ loss: WE DON’T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT LFRANK GETS FIRED NOW!!!!!

When they write about…: WE DON’T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT LFRANK GETS FIRED NOW!!!!!

I believe that this will force them to publish twice as many articles about Lawrence Frank. I also believe this will force them to press management and people in the Nets’ organization as to why Lawrence Frank is still around. And lastly I believe it will force them to tell management that a large part of the Nets’ fanbase wants Frank gone!

This might actually be an active way to achieve his firing!

by me on Mar 6, 2008 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

You don’t speak for all the Nets fans. And Thorn has more class to fire his coach with 20 games remaining. What anyone posts here will NEVER have an effect on what the team does. Do you really think players and coaches/management cruise this site to get Trenton, Newark Hawk and Me think they should do? Of course not.

by Trenton on Mar 6, 2008 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Jefferson looked good – Harris was off.
They had a lead and then got sloppy.

Frank puts Swift out there as a homecoming present.

Playoffs make no difference, they can’t beat anybody.

Will somebody please tell Frank that he has to demand performance? He needs to get in their FACE! There must be consequences.

by halwas on Mar 6, 2008 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

Well what’s new is that Frank have a good team but what’s old is his style of coaching it still doesn’t work. He don’t know who to put in and make them work or should I say play Basketball. Too much “Save my * Coaching technique”.
Get Mark Jackson he is fun to listen and watch
How about Charles Barkely or Kenny Smith or Mario Ellie
or Doug Colins or Paul Westphal or maybe the coach of Yugoslavia team or Argentina team. Have you heard about Ron Jacobs. Me too.

by JuliusErving on Mar 6, 2008 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Lawrence Frank will make it to the Hall of…LAME!
i am sick of this, i came back home last night, i was saying to myself : ’ if we don’t win this one, then why watch the Nets this season again?!’ This is pathetic, I also feel ashamed, and I can’t see LF’s face anymore…

by stillflashy on Mar 6, 2008 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

the two things nets management might react to are a sharp drop in game attendance and/or another 10-game losing streak … eventually they’ll figure out that frank must go sooner rather than later

by newark hawk on Mar 6, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

The whole truth is this year Frtank changed the offense and we look amenic all year. we are last in shooting. Your best player only take 11 shots while the youngsters like MWill and DFevin Harris won’t pass Vince the ball. Frank should be ashamed, once the offense is taking from Carter, the Nets tends to lose and lose BIG. Do Frank have any sense? Give Vince the ball like you’ve done the previous 2 and half years. Everyime we go thru RJ, our team chemistry sucks. It’s pathetic. I should be named the coach.

by MJT on Mar 6, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Frank Ty kurwo! Kristic wypierdalaj na sale trenować!
Sean Williams musi grać 25minut! Stro Show min. 20minut.

by andrzej on Mar 6, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

Too many mistakes by Frank.

It’s a mistake not to run set-plays for Diop. Centers work hard at guarding the middle, fighting for rebounds, setting screens, taking charges from drivers. They need to be rewarded with a play once in awhile.

In addition, I think Diop can be a great Center for the Nets but Frank can’t recognize good potential talent, and, doesn’t know how to develop it.

Mistake not to have played Diop, SWllms and Boone against Tim Duncan to tire him out, in the Spurs game. Especially Diop, because Diop has guarded Duncan many times in the past w/ good results.

Instead, he left Boone on him for the majority of the game. Duncan had 29 pts and 12 rebs against him.

I think it may be a mistake to play Harris, Carter and MWllms together. It’s more effective to play Harris & Carter, MWllms & Carter or Harris & MWllms. But in fairness to Frank, the jury’s still out on this one.

There are many more mistakes Frank makes, every single game, that are too numerous to list here.

by NetKnic on Mar 6, 2008 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

Frank’s biggest sin of all is, he is ****ing up the confidence and development of Sean Williams. He is incapable of handling the deployments of his “bigs”. I hope he handles the PG problem because right now MWilliams seems to be the better point guard. He must have hampered this guy development also because we’re finding out given more playing time, he is a very capable player and a better shooter.

by edd on Mar 7, 2008 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

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