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If Wednesday's game with the Raptors was the first of the post-Kidd era, it didn't bode well. Between pre-game tributes and post-game head scratching, the Raptors took the Nets, 109-91, to end the Nets' modest three-game win streak. With Kidd, Malik Allen and Antoine Wright in the building but out of uniform and Toronto native Jamaal Magloire left back home, the Nets had only nine players ready for action. And those nine were simply not enough. Toronto fans took turns booing Vince Carter and cheering Chris Bosh. Carter suffered through a miserable 5-15 shooting night and Richard Jefferson hit only 6 of 18 while Kidd's two replacements, Marcus Williams and Darrell Armstrong, combined for 23 points and 12 assists but 7 turnovers. The Nets lone bright spot: their pogo-stick forwards. Stromile Swift shot 6-for-9 on his way to a 12-point, six-rebound game while Sean Williams shot 4-for-5 and grabbed 7 boards. Bosh had a monster game, scoring 27 points. The Nets are off for a week.

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One question… Why didn’t Kidd, Allen, and Wright play? The deal wasn’t official at that point, and "traded " Mavs players have already played tonight? Was this Frank’s decision? Anyone?

by bObMan on Feb 13, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

This game was just terrible. Not just because we lost, but because we didn’t have a chance to keep our winning streak going because some idiots decided to come up with a stupid trade that ruins the Nets.

I’m disgusted by this. Rod Thorn makes me sick.

by DJ on Feb 14, 2008 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

Who cares about this game? No one was even paying attention.

Chris Brossard reports on ESPN that Devean George’s snag is not little and could in fact prevent the whole deal from going down. The Mavs he says are going to pursue ways to get the deal done w/o George while the Nets he says doesn’t see how that is possible.

I bet this pisses Jason Kidd off even more, he sucks it up and he leads us to our first ever NBA Championship.

Rod Thorn needs to keep to his word. He said he wanted to see how Krstic would change the team dynamic. Nets are 3-0 with Kidd and Krstic in the starting lineup in 2008. He said he would not trade the franchise’s best player in history just because he wanted to go. He brought in Stromile Swift for Jason Collins for a reason.

I don’t believe the Jason Kidd era is over.

by Jeff on Feb 14, 2008 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

what did we expect i dont think we would of won if kidd played

by BEN on Feb 14, 2008 1:02 AM EST reply actions  

Injuries to any one of them could rescind the deal. The players from the Mavs were expiring contracts and scrubs and Nets would take them injured or not.

by Krakista on Feb 14, 2008 1:03 AM EST reply actions  

Basically, the nets got screwed from all angles.

by King John da FiF on Feb 14, 2008 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

what did you guys expect.

at least the nets were able to crack 90pts.

they were obviously devestated that kidd got traded and it showed. they wernt playing in this game, they were coasting.

first off they only had 9 players suited.

but what was kind of weird was marcus starting. the guy hasnt played in two weeks, and he was rusty, especially defensively. armstrong was great and should of started. if he would of started the nets would probably of competed better. he was a plus 7 on the night, which tells you when he was on the court the nets outscored the raps by 7.

why would frank start marcus after benching him for two weeks? its expected for him to be lost out there. he should of came off the bench and gradually add minutes for him. you can tell he was getting more comfortable by the end of the game.

what did i say about rj. other than his 3 beautiful drives to the basket in the 3rd quarter he struggled big time. he needs kidd on the court. he needs guys to create for him. he will suffer the most cause of the deal. but still frank was force feeding him and we saw vc camp in the corner behind the 3pt line for most of the game. he also struggles, but i thought the nets should of initiated every offensive sequence through him,for the simple fact that he always had two on him every time he touched the ball. all that does is create an open shot or an open lane for his teammates. but since he didnt get too many touches, he never got in wythim.

the nets never had a chance against the raps. this is a big deal that the franshise got traded. its obviously lingering in every net mind, and you can tell they played uninspired, and confused.

but once they get harris in the fold, they should compete on nightly basis. it will take them a few games to get acclamaited together, but they still have a very good yteam.

i am pretty high on harris, and the nets are pretty much set for the future with a core of harris, marcus, sean, boone, and nenad. if they keep carter it will only help in the development of the yougdters. he’s the only player left on the team that can create for himslef and others, and besides all those yougters look up to him. rj will have to get intergrated, but i think in the long term for him its good. he’ll half to rely more on himslef and his teammates will have to rely on him. he’ll learn to be a better player. time in time he’ll probably learn how to consistanly craete his own shot and shots for others. but still the nets do have a fundemental flaw in their roster with the duplication of carter and rj’s game. rj would be considerd a poor man’s version of carter, but they both need the ball in their hands to be effective. when rj has the ball almost everytime carter is a non factor. at least when carter gets the ball he gets everyone incuding rj involved.

it will be interesting to see what direction the nets will take before the trade deadline. thorn was on the record and said that he still wants toi make the playoffs and compete for the championship. ewell we know the latter part of what he said is a longshot but if he wants his team to make the playoffs, what would be the ideal trade bait, carter or rj?

i think if you trade carter, even for jo, its a full pledged rebuilding project. i doubt thorn would trade for another big man that would hamper the nets young big men development. if they trade carter its for exp contracts picks and maybe if they’re lucky a good young piece. besides why would thorn trade his only sg if he isnt getting one in return, doesnt make snese.

if they trade rj for jo say, the the nets would be serious about making noise in the playoffs. thorn would have to add a big man to that trade, but it would make the nets strong with harris, vc, and jo. is jo faking serious injury cause he doesnt want to play with the pacers? who knows. but if he isnt the nets shouldnt even waste a phone call to the pacers. the nets have a few players in the sf psition. nachbar can start, and i think with more playing time he’ll get much better. but if the nets trade rj, it better be for something that would help the nets make the playoffs and be competitive. trade him for 2 wing players, a shooter and a hard nose defender would be good. you never know they might trade him for magette. the clips would get a young good player in return, and not risk losing magette for nothing.

but in the end they’ll probably move carter if they can(but not for JO, doesnt make snese) and start the full pledge rebuilding project. carter can be a serios piece for a team that wants to compete for the championship. he would fit orlando and utah like a glove. he’s exactly the player both teams need. a prolific scorer that can create shots for his teammates.

anyways were upo for a nailbiting exciting 10 days before the deadline. lets see what the nets become .

go nets go.

by mina on Feb 14, 2008 2:39 AM EST reply actions  

Proof to never trust the box score/stats =

Marcus William’s stat line. He was utterly disasterous. I could not even watch him. He is a slow shooting guard who cannot defend, score, or pass. His best attribute is dribbling out shot clocks. He is positively the main reason why we were down 25-30 for the majority of the game.

WHY IS THIS GUY STILL ON MY TEAM? Instead of trading the losers on the team, Rod Thorn tries to trade the winners. I am beyond disgusted.

by Joe on Feb 14, 2008 4:14 AM EST reply actions  

Marcus Williams is absolute garbage…its been a long time since i’ve seen someone so dumb in Nets uniform in my life

Kidd must not have taught this kid a damn thing. SAD.

by Mr. Dollar Bills on Feb 14, 2008 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

Marcus did really disappoint me.

by Jerrod on Feb 14, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Although he stunk, you can’t really evaluate Marcus when he is thrown into a game with so little prior work. That said, he stunk and last year the same thing happened to him in Toronto in a similar circumstance. He does seem to be too slow to guard their PGs. But we need to give him a few more games to get his wind and legs and reflexes and then make an evaluation. Teams will continue to make him defend until he shows he can.

by Mt57 on Feb 14, 2008 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

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