I think Hayes should undoubtedly be the starter over Simmons. And Dooling the 6th man. Simmons is like there just to complete the 5 on the floor…

yeaaaaah yi was nice and he made 2 three’s. can u say the next dirk. and jarvis hayes should take simmons spot. simmons had 4 fouls and hayes had none with 14 pts. I think the starting lineup should be harris, carter, hayes, Yi, Lopez

Good game Nets. I thought it was a very low-level game. The two teams didn’t play well, and Wizards were shooting really badly (which wasn’t because of a good Nets defence). I also noticed that the dribble-drive motion offence wasn’t really used, or else it was badly executed. Here are my individual performances opinion:

Devin Harris: He wasn’t as aggressive as last season’s most games. He was nonetheless active on court and showcase his speed continuously. I expected Frank to give him another 5-6 minutes of playing time as this guy can seriously do more then 31 minutes. Needs to increase his assist number if he wants to seriously compete for the Most Improved Player award. Rate: B

Vince Carter: Well Vince played exactly as I expected him to do, leading the team, scoring around 20 points and dishing 5-6 dimes. Let’s not forget he ‘only’ played 34 minutes and while I expected better rebounding, now that the bigs are much better then last year, this is pretty understandable. 0-3 from behind the three pointer line. Captain Vince. Rate: B+

Bobby Simmons: It’s not his fault is Hayes played well, so saying Simmons was a disappointment would be too unfair on him. Looked a bit too passive at times, but we should give him time before we judge. Rate: C

Yi Janlian: Best player in the game, very active both in defence and in offence. I continue to firmly believe he will be a clear candidate for the Most Improved Player award. When his minutes will rise to around 36 minutes, expect him to get a high average amount of points each games. If he scores just less then Jefferson did and (as today), 50 times more efficiently, then Rod Thorn will be smiling. Rate: A

Josh Boone: Efficient, but nothing special. To me, he didn’t look like he really improved much from last year. Of course, his heart problems and lack of proper recovery might have been crucial, so let’s give this guy time. Rate: D

I never expected this amount of playing time for this Jarvis Hayes, the guy I took a picture with in Paris. Great shooting, and very good pace of the game. 6th man of the year wannabe? On the other hand, I thought Lopez was very disappointing, as he did get his 4-5 post-ups Lawrence Frank promised, and he ruined them all. It was also pitiful watching balls slipping off his hand all the time. But of course, it was his first NBA game. Bravo Dooling, was very decent in substituting Harris, and so was Anderson, although I expected more playing time to the latter, seeing how comfortable he was on court. As to CDR, he looked very uncomfortable and didn’t get many touches to impress. Make sure he will impress, let’s just wait, it’s still the first game. Bench Rate: C+

Anyone disagreeing?

wow were 1-0 hopefully we can beat the warriors on saturday and go 2-0 WOO HOO!!!!

Looked pretty sharp. We did still leave a lot of open 3’s open; Washington just didn’t hit them. 2nd unit can hold up on offense unlike last year. Nowhere near as potent as the first unit, but last year anytime Carter came off the floor our offense was useless.

YI + LOPEZ = NETS TWIN TOWERS!!!

Great win. Hope Jarvis Hayes, Yi and Brook can keep playing that way. If Vince and Devin can be consistent an stay healthy it will be a fun season to watch.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. But I must say, Yi looked very good. Hopefully he keeps that up. The whole team looked pretty good.

But again, it’s one game.

Antawn Jamison was 6-18! LOL someone needs to tell that loser to stop shooting. yi was defending him fight?

For everyone who trashed the Yi trade,

Eat it.

It’s great that were starting the season off with a win.

Vince (New captain) Carter was amazing, picking off where he left off last season, with 21 points and 6 assists.

Hayes was a great suprise, a good scorer off the bench.

Yi had a nice steal in the game, and his jumper was just as nice.

Boone and Lopez each had there moments but had okay games.

Dooling had some nice shots but I felt he held the ball too much at times

Harris was taking it to the rim and limited his turnovers.

a little sad that Swat didn’t play and Anderson made some nice 3 pointers.

Simmons had alot of open looks and he’s got to knock them down.

Good DEFENSIVE game today!

Let’s go Nets!!!!
Go V.C!!!!

awesome win…Jarvis Hayes lit those dudes UP.

Brook needs to start….way more production in less minutes…again, i think Frank should experiment with the Lopez-Boone-Yi front line, especially since Yi seems capable of knocking down the trey, but if we have to i’d say bring Josh off the bench

Yi is going to make some people eat their words. This kid is going to be special.

I love what the 2nd unit brings, when Najera gets back we will be tougher off the bench. Boone, Najera, Hayes, CDR, Dooling, Anderson.

“Carter leads new-look Nets past no-Arenas Wizards”

Great TEAM effort ,thats how you do it.

NOW MOVE THE TEAM TO NEWARK, GET A REAL OWNER AND WE WILL BE

JUST FINE

“Carter leads new-look Nets past no-Arenas Wizards” funny title. Its like the writer is pointing out that we only won becuase Arenas didn’t play… Oh well, media…

Captain VC and team look good. 1-0, let’s thrive for 81 more wins.

Yi impressed the hell outta me. He had that nice block, then the steal, all while showing that great speed. Two 3’s? The man crush starts now….

Recap of Nets victory at http://www.weaksiderejection.blogspot.com

I agree with much that has been written, but nobody noted Anderson’s really being lost at the defensive end on at least 3 different times for Wizard buckets. Finally, LFrank pulled him for Hayes and played Hayes and Simmons at the same time. Overall, a good win, despite some poor sequences for Lopez and Dooling too. Boone looked winded and LFrank played Lopez more. CDR didn’t click, but was competitive on the defensive end. Pleasantly surprised by Hayes…so much for the value of pre-season games and camp, as he missed most of both. YI looked like exactly what I hoped/expected. One down, 35 to go? Overall, quite happy!

Nice start from the Nets. Jarvis and Yi shot very well. VC was taking and making the big shots.

When Lopez replaced Boone, it seemed that the Nets rebounded better. Lopez had some big boards. We might be even better on the glass when we get Eduardo back from his injured wrist.

Simmons was solid, but he missed several wide open threes. I thought he was a good spot up shooter. Maybe he was just off this game. Hopefully LFrank will give minutes to either Hayes or Simmons based on who is having a better shooting night and playing better D. Hayes was knocked as a bad defender, but he didn’t seem half bad tonight.

I missed the game since YES replaced it with a Yankees-Mets rerun…does anyone know why? and did Yi really outscore and outrebound Jamison?

Great, great, great, big win Yi and Lopez (needs to start) will be STARS, Dooling deserve some more minutes, Hayes is gonna be a nice surprise that we had not expecting and will explode this year….
I liked the fact of Frank, giving 15 minutes to each CDR and Ryan to develop…
Now Simmons has to be more active and score at least 10 ppg.
Najera is out so, I’ve not liked the fact that Sean Williams doesn’t played, he needs to develop and gain experience and Frank should have give him some minutes, but when Najera comes in Swat will not have space…

thank god we didnt have ager or hassell in the rotation….tat was a huge relief…though i was hopin that swat will get some mins..anyways he has to prove himself when he gets a chance..otherwise..he will be riding the bench all season…
every one had a great game…the rookies were good in their first nba game esp brook and ryan…

can u say thats A V.C. 3333333333333333333333333333333

ah, and one last note to Devin Harris, that needs to step up and be more agressive to score more points on daily basis..

@ Paul

I agree with you that Anderson he looked lost on several positions when he was burned on the defensive end in the second half. He was pretty solid in the first half though. It might be because he might not be very familiar with some of the defensive sets yet. Hopefully that is the case, because he would be a valuable bench player if he isn’t a defensive liability.

Awesome win! First win of the season was a pleasure to watch.

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The second half was a great showing for the nets they really played well and hustled. I give Frank some props for managing the players verry well today. Yi and hayes were impressive and they waited for there shots

Nice win, Yi played great and VC was VC. I think Lopez played better than Boone. Earlier we were killed at the boards.

As I said earlier, our starters scored 60 and bench contributed with 35. Nice effort.

ttb simmons played great defense on butler

spartan,

Which YES you watched. Game was on YES.

Interesting…

I was there for the game and thought it was sloppy, i think it was a great start to the season…there were times when the nets just went too long on the offense without getting a good shot off…i didn’t really see this dribble drive offense going on, at times we were just kind of working the ball around till someone could just drive
great game though overall
funny note, the wizards PA guy pictured anderson and lopez together in a heart when they were going around the arena trying to get couples to kiss

I have SECTV cable, the schedule said YES had the Net game but a baseball replay was on

You know what I am thinking?

Keep Frank!!!!!

overall i thought the defense was pretty solid. forced washington into a lot of 3 pointers which were contested (even blatche tried shooting one). especially 3rd & 4th quarter d was pretty decent.

Where’s Mina? He has the best observations. He should be a contributor to Netsdaily. Anyway, my two cents, Frank wrong again, Brook should start, there’s really no question. He should be the foundation we build our team around, Boone is not an NBA starting center. Yi looked great, let’s see him against some better players though. Harris still not as efficient as he needs to be, too many jump shots, Carter sharp as an ace. We will win more than 25 games. Book it!

I know why brooklyn bob isn’t here
cuz Yi scored 17 points 6 rebounds 2 blocks and 2 assists
good game nets!! hope you win next game

yeah, blatche has potential and extreme length, hes just gotta work on the j.

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@spartan

I watched the game on YES.

One game, guys … against the lowly wizards (no arenas & no haywood). Let’s not get too excited.

If we have to count on yi and hayes to shoot like that every night, we’re in a lot of trouble. Boki Nachbar used to get hot once in a while too, but he’s now out of the league. What a player does over the long haul is what really matters.

Good win for the nets, but let’s keep it all in perspective.

WE BETTER BEAT THE WARRIORS ON SAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SUNS AND PISTONS COMING UP

Every win we get silences doubters a little more. Currently we have the best record in the league. And why not go for 81 more wins…the way Carter asserted himself not only in the game but on his teammates was marvelous and refreshing to see from a Nets captain…

Umm, Brooklyn Rob, are you comparing Yi and Hayes to Boki?
Defense is what won this game for us. If Yi is Boki then Frank is Larry Bird.

@ Mr. Dollar Bills

I agree with your experiment but would put Swat at the 4 cause Boone is our only backup 5.

@ Paul

Good observation about Anderson. I think he should backup Yi at the 3.

Nice win but imo Frank’s choice of playing Yi at the 4, benching Lopez and leaving Swat out of the rotation will hurt us. Matching Yi against Jamison was to our advantage but teams like Toronto, Philly and Bos. with big 4s will give Yi trouble. When VC goes to the hoop its basketball at its best. 1 down 81 to go. Go Nets!!!

Sorry but I wasn’t that impressed. Washington without Arenas and Haywood is a woeful team. Yi looked good on offense but there are so many times he isn’t aggressive and is just standing around or out hustled or avoids contact. I think Yi will always be a Keith Vorn Horn type….and we could go far with him as a rotation player just don’t expect him to be a superstar. A good role player and maybe a great scorer.
The player that most impressed me was Brook Lopez. PLEASE Frank let this guy start and learn the ropes. Hayes was impressive but he’s supposed to come in and make his shots. I thought his all around game was much better than anticipated. Boone looked out of sync but he will come back quickly.

 I’m still not sold on Devin as the long term point guard for this franchise. We will need to draft or trade down the line. He’s just not much of a playmaker, and with Carter, Yi, Anderson, Hayes, Brook we will need more of a playmaking point guard I do believe. Carter handles oo much of the playmaking for my tastes. He played great as expected. He is the leader and the captain.

 Nice game to win down the stretch but I’m far from convinced this season will be anything more than growing pains.

It’s good win. I hope Yi continues to show us what he’s got

I like lopez a lot, too. He plays smart and under control, has a lot of self-confidence and has a real nba body. Let’s just hope that frank doesn’t ruin him, like he ruined sean.

I think Frank knows what he is doing and he has enough assistants. Just leave the guy alone. I think this starting lineup is good though I like Lopez to start. For now Boone will start and Lopez will play more minutes. No need to play Heyes over Simmens. We need a strong second unit and Frank will play whoever plays better more minutes.

We should not go too high on one game. Let’s give them at least 20 games to see where they are at.

@ Carlos

I think VC carried the Nets down the stretch. Maybe you should give him the highest grade – unless the grade is based on performance vs expectations.

@ Mr Dollar Bills

Yi doesn’t really look for the 3ptrs. Today’s 2 treys were just opportunistic shots when he was left wide open behind the 3pt line. I don’t expect him to start taking more than the occasional 1-2 3ptrs per game. He should stay within his game for now. He played better defense tonight than during the preseason. If he continues to improve his defense, he’ll be able to make even greater contributions to this team.

break up the nets! tied for first, pundits be damned.

i think its safe to say this team surprised everyone, including the coaches and maybe themselves. the D wasnt flawless, but for a team this young and new it was fantastic against a team that can score

lets break it down shall we?

Starters:

Devin Harris — solid game, especially because the turnovers were cut down and almost nonexistent. ran the plays, got into the lane and hit his jumpers. i look for him to score more, but if we are playing like this i really dont care if he puts up 11 or 21.

Vince Carter — Captain Carter has put his vinsanity trademark on this team from the get go. how impressive was VC? even haters have to really appreciate his game today. he DID NOT force ANYTHING like kobe did before the lakers retooled. Vince was a leader, a defender, a scorer and the backbone to this team. so many positive things to say about vince and he deserves them all.

Bobby Simmons — played like a guy whos been around. hit a couple corner 3’s and made a really nice cut to the middle when vince was double teamed for a dunk. also played nice D on Butler for parts of the game. did not finish as Hayes was obviously better

Yi — the big man had a lot of positives today. his jumper is just so sweet its not fair for a 7 footer to shoot with such a smooth jumper. he hit 3pointers with ease, he rebounded and played better D than he did in preseason. his steal and break away was great (no foul called shoulda been 3pt play) he probably shoulda used 1 hand but if he feels more comfortable with 2 whatever. the block shot on thomas was great as he went HARD at thomas to block that shot. ran the floor well. looked like he was tired at times, but he played great down the stretch as one of the final 5 to finish that game out. very solid opening night for him. you saw the potential. with strength and a post game this kid can dominate if he wishes.

Josh Boone — i wasnt sure what to expect. he got the start because of familiarity and his communication, but he also was away from competition for a while. Frank named him the starter and he did start, but he played and was used like a backup. etan was pushing him around at times, but ill give him a pass because of his layoff. wasnt really impressed with him, yet not disappointed. a so-so performance imo.

Bench:

Dooling — exactly the type of guard we want off the bench imo. he has shown he is not being selfish and is looking to be more of a pure pg. he was aggressive when need be with his jumper or baseline cuts. played good D, just a solid game for him too especially since he hasnt played all that much with his injury this preseason

Hayes — you cant see him. thats how good he played. he shoulda been wavin his hands like john cena, but then you would look like that punk deshawn so nevermind. Hayes played out of his mind really. his jumper was on target from beyond and under the arc. he ran the break very well as well. played good D as he was in there instead of Simmons to finish the game. maybe he was hyped up more because it was washington, but i hope this is the hayes we will see all year. you know who performed like this last year game one when everyone got really excited about him? Antoine Wright. lets hope Hayes’ year turns out a little, ok a lot better than wrights.

CDR — low key game for him. im lookin for him to have hustle points on the break and from creating steals because of his length.

Anderson — shot and hit the 3 the first time he got the ball which is good because he is a shooter so when you get it, let it rip. made some good hustle plays to keep balls alive and blocked a reverse shot. nice game for mr.anderson

Brook Lopez — beast. his numbers may not look outstanding, but i felt his play was. if he didnt get the rebound he kept the ball alive. when was the last time you saw a 7 footer run and hustle after a ball that is going out of bounds? he did it a couple of times. his defense was a lot better. he took some tough shots. some the shot clock was down and some he just didnt shoot it right. his rotation was very good as he was communicating (i guess he got the hint when frank talked about starting boone). he had to put a big smile on all nets fans as our future center. if you believe its not how you start, but how you finish then its a good sign for brook as he anchored our D as one of the final 5.

Ager – DNP no surprise. he will have a suit on soon

Swat – DNP – a little surprised. we hear he was slipping down the depth chart, but its game 1 and we are rebuilding so i thought he would get a run and see how it goes. i thought him and anderson would split time. not a good sign for swat, but maybe he will play and anderson will sit next game. once Najera comes back swat could see a couple DNPs if he isnt careful.

overall solid performance from everyone. it was great to see 5 guys not taking one play off. 5 guys who were going hard on both ends for a win. like we saw in europe. guys wanted this win. all games wont be like this and there are going to be painful nights or stretches, but if this team competes like this every game and win or lose i will be satisfied as a fan of a rebuilding team. with the vets playing well and young guys like yi and brook playing well we may indeed surprise. got 81 more to go, but tonight it definitely feels good

I enjoy reading everyones comments. Who says that Knick fans are the most knowledgeable around???Just read some of these comments! Yes, we better beat the Warriors! AND after 20 games, if we are 10-10, I am going out to get loaded to celebrate!!!!

@ paul erstein

Knick fans call themselves the most knowledgeable fans around … but nobody else does.

GREAT scoring distribution. Horrible for my fantasy team but great for the Nets!

why so long to comment Brooklyn Bob? I bet after the first loss, he is commenting 3 minutes after the final whistle to say how right he was, looking for a pat on the back…………….

I forgot to mention. Did anyone notice at the end of the half there was about 2.5 seconds left and Wash. had the ball. Frank the little genius takes his big man out and puts in a guard. I’m guessing if you asked him why, he would say to guard the three. He goes small all the time. I was just waiting for the shot to go up with some time left and they get a put back at the buzzer. His response would be we didn’t box out. The fact that our 6’5 guy couldn’t rebound over their 6’10 guy wouldn’t matter. Here’s another thing. Look at our posts. 48 and counting and if you asked everyone who they pick to start next game Boone or Lopez, 96% start Lopez. Lets see how long it takes him to figure it out. I had Lopez in the final NCAA game and was on the floor laughing when 9 teams passed him up and knew the Nets would grab him. Bootom line is Frank is the weakest link on the team.

so..where are the nets haters now?..lol

@ xcalibur
Great analysis. What do you think of Anderson’s defense? It was a little suspect at times in the 2nd half.

Also, what do you guys think about Marcus Williams and what is going on at Golden State? We are gonna get a good look at him this Saturday, but he is not getting any burn down in GS. He’s riding the pine behind an undrafted 3rd stringer, Demarcus Nelson. A lot of folks on this board thought LFrank was ruining and wasting Marcus’ talent and that he would thrive in GS. Well he can’t seem to get off the bench so far. It’s been a couple of years, can we officially say that he is a draft bust to accompany Wright, Planinic, Ilic, Brandon Armstrong, etc? I just hope Swat does not fall into the same category.

this is for libigman
frank is definitely not the weakest link on the team. he managed this team today very well. the problem the nets will have is their poor defense and not settling into a offense.

RECOGNIZE!

hey everyone watch the highlights on nba.com. At the end when carter makes a deep 3 he goes crazy screaming saying lets go and **** all the espn writers!!!

Great game, but one thing I observed if Boone is in and Yi at the same time, we get outrebounded. Boone is busy defending and tends to over-commit. I don’t think playing Boone and Yi together works well. Boone would play better with either williams or Anderson, coz both can help on rebounds.
Yi would be better pairing with Lopez, coz Brook seems to have better control on rebounds and doesn’t over commit on defense since he is big enough to intimidate.
 So it really doesn’t matter who starts but which pair is better. Hope Frank finds the right combination. In this case with Washington, it was a feeler for who works better with whom. So let’s give Frank some time to figure it out. I only watched up to third quarter, I noticed that Boone was struggling on rebounds up to that point. I believe on fourth quarter they reinserted Brook, and I assumed that works better. If that is the case then I would say good job by Frank, but more praises for Brook. He reminds me of Brad Daugherty, an ex-nets.

I think Boone should still start and Lopez should come off the bench, at least for the first 20 games or so.

Boone deserves the spot for the work he put in and Lopez needs to come off the bench so he goes against the bench of the other team that he can dominate and get his confidence and rhythm fully established.

What a great win but we need to go 2-0 coz it’ll be SUNS and then PISTONS after that…

Wizards without Arenas is woeful ? Sure, they missed a big weapon, but don’t forget they were playing better without Arenas last season.

And they made the 5th seed spot in the Eastern last season. Caron and Jamison are good enough, and we handle them, that’s it.

Harris, Carter, Yi, and Lopez, and Hayes had the good effort. Go NETS

Harris has to step up, he hasn’t impressed me since offseason so far.

Why carter only play 30 minutes?. he need to play 40 minutes.

@ Davis,

we have to protect Carter. Now he is the captain and the lonely star.

humppp Raptors won too

Very nice win. Yi looking more and more comfortable and most important-confident. Want to see more the Lopez and Dooling tandem but the latter needs to calm down and not force too many shots (have a word with him Cap!).
All in all great game and next up Warriors. Don’t play into Nelson’s run and gun style. Need to lock down and slow the pace and pound the interior cause they have no presence there. Brook it!

Frank won’t let Brook start the next game.. that’s how he handles stuff… somehow he realizes things a little slower than most fans. Anyway, if Brook can put up those numbers in similar minutes (8 and 8 is really not bad seriously), there’s no way Brook is not in the starting 5 by game 15 or so.

Great defensive effort! That is how you tough out a game and win! That is how we can make it far this year and prove the critics wrong. We just have to play like this every night like the Jason Kidd teams did the first five years he was here. DEFENSE and hustle win games. We would have folded and lost this game last season.

BROOK SHOULD START!!!! He is the anchor in the middle. We finally have a true center! I like Boone off the bench with regular minutes.

Great defensive effort! That is how you tough out a game and win! That is how we can make it far this year and prove the critics wrong. We just have to play like this every night like the Jason Kidd teams did the first five years he was here. DEFENSE and hustle win games. We would have folded and lost this game last season.

BROOK SHOULD START!!!! He is the anchor in the middle. We finally have a true center! I like Boone off the bench with regular minutes.

Even though Boone started, Brook played more minutes. There will be games when Boone plays better than Brook. The Nets are deep and will be hungry for playing time. Especially when Najera and Swift come back. I really don’t care who starts… Just want to see the rooks develop and the team get better.

The Nets will probably surprise a lot of teams early because there’s no tape of the new players or new offense for opponents to study. They need to take advantage of that.

I will say it again. The secret to this season is LFrank. If he has matured in the silent aspects of coaching. If he has learned from the mistake of micro managing. If he can earn and keep the respect of this new assemblage of players and make this his team we could be the surprise of the east. A solid team with a bunch of young players on the rise. I will take solid, fighting for spot 7-8

Yi, Hayes, Lopez played great.

Let’s give Frank credit for a fine team effort.

Let’s not dump players who did not have a great game. Simmons and Boone need to start for now to get the most out of them, and also to get the most from Hayes and Brook. When LF tries your way, you’ll see why.

Yi can do well against smaller forwards after all, can’t he? Especially since there aren’t any bigger forwards to play him. :D

wow jus as surprised as anyone 1-0 good job on defense. just wanted 2 c more of yi playin more physical but he did wat he had 2 do 2 get bukets. brook should start n have josh as 6th man. he draws more attention n spreads the ball more. lets go 1-0

the starting lineup should be
PG-Harris
SG-Jarvis Hayes
SF-Vince
PF-Yi
C-Brook Lopez

Bn. Simmons, Dooling, Anderson, Boone
Lets go 2-0 saturday

The scoring was very balanced, 12 from the centers and 21 at every other position. Sign of a good offense and a good preseason.

Brook’s plus/minus : +12. Josh’s: -2. Keep an eye on this.

Ryan is very, very good on the boards.

I was surprised CDR did nothing.

DH left a lot to be desired.

Yi was great but I think he will be inconsistent and we can’t expect this every night. Same re Jarvis Hayes.

VC picked right up from last year.

That second unit really had a hard time finding an offensive approach that worked.

It’s nice to see everyone who wanted to run Frank out of town for trading Marcus Williams own up to the fact that he can’t even start ahead of an undrafted rookie.

“Frank won’t let Brook start the next game.. that’s how he handles stuff… somehow he realizes things a little slower than most fans. Anyway, if Brook can put up those numbers in similar minutes (8 and 8 is really not bad seriously), there’s no way Brook is not in the starting 5 by game 15 or so.”

You guys are hilarious. I love how fans think they should all be coaches.

I just watched the highlight of YI. everytime he shot the he bought the nets bad in the lead. He’s very crutch.

I just watched the highlight of YI. everytime he shot the ball he bought the nets back in the lead. He’s very clutch.

@VC3

Let Vince play at the two, not the three.

He is not as energetic as before, so let him play the role of SG, would make him good.

Bobby Simmons held Butler well, he deserve go ahead to start .

Hayes would be a good scorer off the bench.

You hilarious fans like to judge a thing off one game.

I think you guys need to stop whining about Frank not letting brook start. Lopez played more minute than boone. Lopez should be in the second unit so he could get more touches. He is a scoring center. With YI,harris, and carter he won’t get as many touches.

I agree with lol

People keep calling for frank’s head, but after one game are declaring major lineup changes. Either way everybody got some time.

Bobby simmons isn’t going to shoot that poorly every night. I was impressed with his defense on Butler also. Last year Butler would of put the flash on us

nets … 1-0
knicks … 1-0

nets vs knicks in eastern conference finals … book it

Lets not drink the Hayes Kool Aid yet…he had inspiration to play hard last night…that same fire may never show its face again.

u forgot to mention, VC still has his legs and the ankle looks fine, a the game he nearly jumped over the scores table going for a loose ball

Again, Lopez should start, there isn’t any question about this. He can block shots, is much bigger than Boone and can post up. These are all things true NBA centers can do. Now I know we haven’t had a real center for ages so we’re used to a different set of criteria, but Boone is not an NBA starting center.

Lopez needs to work on better post positioning, but some of that is strength.

The length he provides is what’s so valuable to the Nets right now. Seems like he never has to jump

VC was back to his old form, pre ankle.

Yi was just as I expected, amazing, and not to be brushed off.

I am sad to see Williams not get any minutes.

start lopez … it’s a no-brainer

Boone would be perfect as the starting PF w/ Yi at the 3, but I like Simmons’ defense, not so much his offensive output.

Let Brook and Yi start, bring in Boone w/ Dooling, Hayes, and Anderson.

Lopez can mess around and be ROY because he sleepwalks to near double doubles.

PUT NAJERA IN WITH THE FIRST UNIT

At some point down the road, with Lopez and Yi both in the first unit, assuming we have enough offense between VC, DH, BL and Yi, putting Najera in with this unit may improve the defense and allow him to teach Lopez and Yi in game situations.

With Simmons in the second unit as opposed to Nejera, it also would improve the offense of that unit.

Oh I also gotta say that I really like Mike Fratello as an announcer. I like everything he says. I wish Marv would just STOP trying to instigate the “friendly ribbing” with him, the jokey insults, because they fall flat and it’s awkward to hear it. You need chemistry for that stuff to work. Just call the game, and don’t try to force the funny.

I’d like to hear Ian Eagle + Fratello, I think that would be excellent.

and Bob Lorenz never seems like he gives 2 craps about the Nets or the NBA in general. He seems like a football guy or a baseball guy who has to cover an NBA team too.

i like what i see so far. I think the balance of the team is whats going to be the big key. it’s weird because it seemed like both rotations where almost alike. I like the idea of simmons starting because of the fact hayes is a nice scorer on the 2nd rotation…i dont know about everyone else but for the first game and how sharp they where this could be a pretty entertaining season and im pretty pleased…and yi can stroke it!…..go nets!

Why play SWAT? He’s garbage.

We have a huge problem. It is now crystal clear that we will go 82-0 this season. Why bother to play the games, it is a foregone conclusion. We then follow this with fo, fo, fo in the first three rounds of the playoffs. But then we hit the wall. How are we going to stop Kobe in the finals? VC needs to step up, and perhaps we should fire Frank just to be on the safe side. Problem solved!

Hey, a win is a win. Let’s savor them. According to a regular contributor who (surprise, surprise) hasn’t posted on this one yet, we are now going to go 1-19 in the next 20.

Here’s a link of YI’s Highlights from last night’s game!!!

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I was impressed with Carter the most. I guess now being the Captain of this team motivated him a lot last night. hit some clutch shot down the strecth.

I know how most of you want Hayes starting but i think that is a bad idea. That’ll just make our bench weaker imo. I like that little spark. reminds me a lot of boki’s energy.

Lopez and Yi are deffinently 2 Bigs to be excited about but WTF was up with Harris, I expect a way better game from him against the Warriors… Harris is a fast paced PG!

Anyone else think Boone would benfit much more from being a 6th man off the bench?

@Jay C

thanks for the kind words about my analysis.

Anderson had some plays on D where he was out of position. typical rookie mistake. one time he was guarding Jamison and he lost Jamison as he was cutting to the basket and had his back to the ball to find Jamison then turned around as Jamison got the pass for an easy layup. its the type of play that if we were a vet team he woulda been benched for as it was just a stupid mistake. thats what they are supposed to do, make mistakes. im sure he wont do that again. at times he played good D, hes goina need more strength if he will play the 4. right now i think he can be ok at the 3 or guarding a Jamison who is not your typical 4

as for Marcus. well i was on the marcus bandwagon and was shocked when we were able to draft him. he was going to take over when kidd’s time passed. i was shocked at how marcus was unable to grow or really generate any positive comments about him. one time he was praise for improving his conditioning, which meant his conditioning was crap to begin with. he was hyped up as one of if not the best pg – PURE pg- in the draft.

i would have liked more in return for marcus, same for RJ, but we just needed to move him as i thought he would only get worse know he IS NOT taking over for kidd since we got harris. when he went to GS i thought it was perfect. GS or PHX is the perfect type of team/system for him to join. for Nellie to have him 3rd on the depth chart screams out at me. a team who is all O no D doesnt want an all O no D guard to play? that says something about marcus and its not good.

we might end up with a first round pick for a guy who is 3rd on their pg depth chart. that would be highway robbery if it pans out like that. the worst we can do is 2 2nd round picks for a 3rd string pg (as of now). i still think marcus will play and i think he can play good, but they have vets on that team and scorers who want the ball in their hands and i dont think they will really tolerate a new pg who is trying to impress a lot of people. GS wants to get into the playoffs, they have to have some type of faith in marcus. they obviously has none. this can just be tough love to send a message to marcus. its just a shocking situation imo.

@xcalibur

I agree, Anderson needs to gain more strength to guard the bigger 4s in the league. I guess it depends on the matchup whether he plays the 3 or the 4 spot. Plus, it makes sense that he might get caught out of position in the defensive end once in a while, but if all the nets rookies keep playing through their mistakes and keep improving that’s all the nets can ask for.

Yes, Marcus’ situation in GS is a little surprising. He can shoot and has good court vision. It’s just his quickness and defense was very much lacking. I do hope we see him get some court time when GS plays the Nets this weekend. I wonder if he can keep Devin Harris in front of him.

@Jay C

Marcus will get a DNP this saturday eventhough he is a 3rd string PG in which Monta Ellis isn’t even playing. Unless of course its garbage time. lolz. Brook SHOULD NOT start yet to boost the bench and to allow him to DomInate Other Teams Bench players frontcourt. I Imagine Brook having his way and Playing Better Against Players giving KG, Sheed, Big Ben, Yao, Shaq, Bosh/Oneal some rest.

if the nets actually play defense this year i might actually start to get excited about them for the first time in like 6 years. that was a pretty solid all-around effort on both ends of the floor and amazingly the rookie mistakes were kept to a minimum. maybe we should stop calling for franks head until further notice.

did you see that VC up-and-under?!..damn..it should be the no. 1 in the wed top plays!!..well,yao was just lucky..

Man, looking back we robbed GS blind in that deal. Either way we get something of value for a player who seems like he could care less that he will be playing in the d league or overseas in the next two years.

who really hates deshawn stevenson because all the stupid celebrations he does

PROPS TO VINCE, YI, HARRIS, BROOK, HAYES, AND FRANK. THESE GUYS WERE THE STARS OF THE NIGHT.

VINCE WAS AGGRESSIVE, GOT EVERYONE INVOVLED, AND HAD ABOUT 4 TO 5 AMAZING DRIVES AND FINISHES TO THE BASKET, VINTAGE VINCE.I CANT BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS GUY ISNT A SUPERSTAR PLAYER. IF YOU OBVIOSULY COMPARE HIIM TO HIS OLD DAYS, THEN HE ABVIOUSLY HAS LOST A LITTLE SOMETHING, BUT AS OF NOW, NOONE CAN MAKE THOIOSE SPECTACUALY PLAYS LIKE HIM, ONLY LEBRON AND WADE HAS THAT ACROBATIC, EXPLOSIVE AND ATHLETIC FINISHHES AROUND THE RIM. BU YOU GOT TO LIKE HOW HE SSEUIZED THE MOMNENT IN THE END AND GOT THE WIN FOR HIS TEAM.

HARRIS PLAYED ALRIGHT, AND CAN PLAY MUCH BETTER. AT LEAST HE RAN THE TEAM WELL, AND HARDLY HAD ANY TURNOVERS. HE HAD A COUPLE SHOTS IN THE PAINT ON DRIVES WHERE HE USUALLY MAKES THEM AND HE DIDNT GET A COUPLE OF CALLS. BUT HE PLAYED WELL OVERALL, AND COULD OF GOT MORE ASITS IF SOME OF HIS TEAMMATES WOULD OF HIT SOME MORE SHOTS. BUT HE NEEDS TIME TO GET MORE COMFORTABLE AND GET THE TOTAL FEEL OF HIS TEAM.

YI IS INCREDIBLE. HE HAS CONSISTANLY PUT DOUBLE DIGITS SCORING, AT AN EFFICIENT RATE, SINCE THE FIRST GAME OF THE PRESEASON. THE KID CAN SCORE, AND IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. HIS SHOT IS UNSTOPPABLE. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO GET THE BALL ABOUT 10-15 FEET AWAY FROM THE RIM, AND JUST SHOOT OVER THE DEFENDERS. HIS STROKE IS PURE. HE’S ALREADY ONE OF THE BEST SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE. AND HE HASNT EVEN SCRATCHED THE SURFACE OF HIS POTENTIAL. THIS KID IS ALREADY PROVING ALL THE NAYSAYERS WRONG ABOUT THE RJ TRADE. HE ALSO HAD 6 REBOUNDS, 2 BLKS AND I STEAL WHICH CAME IN A CRUCIAL PART OF THE GAME THAT LEAD TO A BRKAEAWAY DUNK. TELL ME ANOTHER 7 FOOTER THAT CAN STEAL A BALL LIKE THAT ON THE PERIMETER AND OUTRUN A GUARD FULL COURT AND DUNK IT. HE HAS ALL THE SKILLS NECESSARY TO BE A STAR. AND HE SEEMS COMFIRTABLE WITH HARRIS , AND THE REST OF HIS TEAMMATES ON THE FLOOR. BUT HE’S ESPECIALLY COMFORTABLE WITH VC ON THE FLOOR. ITS LIKE HE FEEDS HIM CONFIDENCE ALL THE TIME. THERE WAS ONE PLAY WHERE YI FORGOT TO ROTATE TO LATE WHICH RESILTED INTO A SHOOTINGG FOUL. VINCE RIGHT AWAY LET YI KNOW ABOUT IT. ITY SHOWED GREAT LEADERSHIP ON THAT PLAY. I CANT SEE REDD OR ANYONE ELSE IN MILWAKEE DO THAT. RJ IN HIS OPENER HAD 15PTS 2REBS AND 1 ASSIST ON 5 FOR 17 SHOOTING. I WONT COUNT THE NIGHT AFATER AGAISNT THE THUNDER EVEN THOUGH HE PLAYED WELL. WHAT IM SAYING IS THAT YI IS ALREADY PRODUCING MORE THAN RJ. AND ITS A NO BRAINER HE WILL BE TONS, I MEAN TONSSSSSSSSS BETTER THAN RJ.

HAYES WAS A SURPRISE. IM SURE THE FACT IT WAS HIS RETURN TO WASHINGTON PLAYED A FACTOR IN HIS GOOD PLAY. BUT THE GUY IS A DEAD EYE SHOOTER, AND THAT COMPLEMENTS VC AND HARRIS BETTER. HE AND SIMMONS WILL PUSH EACHOTHER TO GET BETETR FOR PT. SIMMONS DIDNT HAVE HIS SHOT, BUT DID THE LITTLE THINGS AND PLAYED GOOD DEFENSE. I LIKE HAYES OFF THE BENCH, HE GIVES THE NETS THAT OFFENSIVE NBBOOST OF THE BENCH. HE ALSO REBOUNDED WELL, AND MADE GOOD DECIDSIONS. THIS GUY WAS ONCE UPON A TIME THE 10TH PICK OF THE LEBRON DRAFT. THE INJURIES REALLY REGRESSED HIS DEVELOIPMENT. BUT HE’S AT LEAST A 10PPG PLAYER. HE AND SIMMONS WILL DEFINITLY HELP OUT, AND BOTH OF THEM WILL ECLIPSE THE PRODUCTION RJ GAVE ALONE. PLUS HE’S A BETTER FIT WITH VC AND HARRIS SINCE THEYRE SHOOTERS. THEY SPREAD THE FLOOR NICLEY FOR THE PLAYMAKERS.

EVEN THOUGH BROOK DIDNT SDTART, WHICH HE SHOULD HAVE SINCE HE WON THE COMPETETION DURING THE PRESEASON, HE PLAYED VERY WELL. THIS IS ONE OF HIS BAD GAMES YET HE HAD 8 AND 8 WITH A FEW BLOCKS. THE GUY IS A BEAST. HE’S SO LONG, AND HE DOES REMIND ME A BIT OF DUNCAN. I DONT EVER THINK HELL BE A DUINCAN TYPOE, AND NOONE WILL EVER BE LIKE DUNCAN THE BEST PF OF ALL TIMES, BUT HE PLAYS A SIMILAR STYLE. HIS KNOCK WAS THAT HE WAS STIFF, SOFT, COULDNT REBOUND, AND PLAY DEFENSE, WELL THATS WHAT HES BEING DOING BEST SINCE HE’S BEEN A NET. THE GUY IS A REBOUNDING FORCE, HE DEFENDS WELL, THE POST AND PICK AND ROLLS FOR MOST PART, AND CLOGS THE PAINT VERY WELL. HE DIDNT GIVE THE WIZ A CHANCE TO SNIFF THE PAINT. AND WE ALL KONW HE CAN SCORE VERY WELL. I LIKE TO SEE HIM IN THE STARTING UNIT CAUSE, HE HAS A BETETR CHANCE TO SCORE, WHEICH HE CAN, HE MKAKES THE ENTS STRONGER, AND HE IS OUR STARTING FRANCHISE CENTER. THERE ARNT TOO MANY CENTERS LIKE HIM IN THE LEAGUE, THAT HAS THE WHOLE PACKAGE. I THINK THIS GUY HAS STAR QUALITIES, AND IF HE KEEPS ON DEVELOPING LIKE HE IS RIGHT NOW, THERES NO REASON WHY HE SHOULDNT BE.

FRANK DID PRETTY WELL THIS GAME. HE SEEMED TO MAKE ALL THE CORRECT DECISIONS. I DIDNT LIKE THE FACT LOPEZ DIDNT START, WSICNE FRANK HIMSELF DID SAY TYHAT IT WAS AN OPEN COMPETETION, AND BASED ON THAT LOPEZ SHOULD BE STARTING, BUT HE AT LEAST RECOGNIZED THAT BOONE WAS INNEFFECTIVE AND WAS BEING BULLIED BY ETAN THOMAS EVERYTIME. GOOD THING FRANK REALIZED THAT AND PUT LOPEZ IN TO FINISH THE GAME. I ALSO DIDNT LIKE THE FACT THAT SEAN DIDNT PLAY. THE WIZ ARE A CONTENDING TEAM AND YET JORDAN FOUND A WAY TO PLAY ALL 12 GUYS ON HIS BENCH. THE ONLY WAY SEAN DEVELOPS INTO THE POTENTIAL HE HAS, WHICH IS UNLIMITED, IS BY GETTING PT. AND WE ALL SAW WHAT SEAN CAN DO. HE WAS THE BEST THHING THAT HAPPENED TO THE NEST LAST YEAR BEFORE ALLSTAR BREAK. FRANK AHS TO FIND A WAY TO GET THAT OUT OF HIM, ITS HIS JOB. THE KID IS WORKING HARD, AND HE NEEDS PT. IM SURE OF THIS, IF THE NETS TRADE HIM HE WILL PULL A TYSON CHANDLER ON THEM. THE KID IS SOOOO TALENTED. AND THE BESTD EFENSIVE UNIT UPFRONT IS SEAN WITH LOPEZ. THEY WOULD CLOG THE PAINT LIKE THAT, AND COULD PROBABLY HAVE ONE OF THE EBST SHOT BLOCKING DUOS EVER. FRANK HAS TO FIND A WAY TO GET HIM IN, ITS CRUCIAL TOI THE FUTURE OF THE NETS. FRANK DID DO A GREAT JOB TONIGHT, BUT THE THING THAT PLAGUED HIS COACHING TENURE WAS THAT HE COULDNT GET HIS TEAM TO BE CONSISTENT. THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE NETS SHOULDNT PLAY WIHT THAT SAME TYPE OF INTENSITY AND PASSION EVERY GAME. AND HE;LL HAVE TO ADJUST HIS SCHMES FOR EVERYTEAM. THIS TEAM IS TALENETED AS HELL. THEY SHOWED WHAT THEY COULD DO AGAISNT THE WIZ, NOW FRANK HAS TO BUILD ON THAT, AND ADJUST AND MAKE SURE THIS TEAM PLAYS LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. THEY WON WITH HARRIS AND VINCE GETTING VERY MODEST NUMBERS. AND THIS WAS THE OPENER, SO IM SURE THEY CAN BE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT. BUT IT WAS A GOOD FIRST STEP BY THE NETS AND FRANK, HOPEFFULLY HELL KEEP THEM SHARP AND READY. AND HE HAS TO FIND A WAY TO PLAY SEAN. THIS KID AINT MARCUS, HE IS CONDITIONED, AND THERE INST AN ATHLETE LIKE HIM IN THE LEAGUE. BELIEVE ME FANS, ONCE THIS KID GETS HIS CHANCE, HELL WOW PEOPLE LIKE HE DID LAST YEAR, AND THIS TIME AROUND NOONE WILL TAKE HIS PT AWAY FROM HIM. I CANT BELIEVE FANS HAVE ALREADY GIVEN UP ON HIM. THIS KID STARTED TO PLAY ORGANIZED BALL 5 YRS AGO, AND IS A PROJECT. BUT IF NO ONE IS EXCITRED ABOUT HIS POTENTIAL, WHOCH HE SHOWED LAST YEAR, THAN YOURE JUST A HATER, OR SOMEONE WHO FDOESNT UNDERSTAND THE GAME. ILL SAY IT AGAIN, HE’S GOT MORE GAME THAN BOONE AND IS HIS POTENTAIL DWARFS BOONE’S PTENTIAL. IN THE LONG TERM, CAUSE HE WILL GET IT ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME, HE WILL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CAREER THAN BOONE, IT WONT BE EVEN COMPARABLE. WHAT OI DONT GET FRANK HAD EVERY REASON IN HIS MIND TO PLAY COLLINS FOR OVER 35 MINUTES A GAME FOR YRS, BUT HAS EVERY REASON NOT TO PLAY SEAN. COLLINS IS BY FAR THE MOST OVERATED PLAYER AND OVERPAID PLAYER OF ALL TIME. CANT SCORE, JUMP, REBOUND, BLOCK SHOTS OR RUN. I GUESS PEOPLE REALLY VALUED THE FACT HE CAN SET A PICK, BOX OUT, AND POSITION HIMSELF. THERES A REASON WHY THORN TRADED HIS DEAD WEIGHT, AND NO OTHER TEAM WANTS HIM NOW. THE GRIZZLIES TRADED HIM AS A ADD ON, AND NOW HE’;S INJURED, AND I HIGHLY DOUBT HELL EVER GET ANOTHER CONTRACT. MAYBE 1 NOR TWO MORE VETERAN MINIMUM’S, AND THAST IT FOR HIM. WORSE STARTER IVE EVR SEEN EVER.

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