here we go, negative posts coming.

relax guys it’s just preseason.

Watching that game felt like a regular season game. That could be good, and it could be bad.

Good: They showed great effort, everyone.

Bad: We lost to the Knicks..

IDK what to make of this, but yep. =]

Meh Im not really concerned this is pre-season and our main guys played pretty well (HOLY **** LOPEZ).

The Knicks killed us with 3 pt shots. Perimeter defense was just not close enough, because guys don’t have faith, that if they play their players tight, that Lopez will cover their men, if they drive by to the basket. Understandable, Lopez is a rookie, in his 5th pre-season game. We missed Boone tonight, and Dooling too. CDR shot poorly. Looks like Gill is the 3rd PG. We know Swift rides injured reserve into the season, but who else? Do they cut Hodge, and let him catch on with someone else, or does he also ride the injured reserve?? Marbury looked good, Knicks should wait till someone’s starting PG goes down, and then make a good deal. Wilson Chandler is going to be a player in this league and Nate Robinson…just WOW in the new system. Hope Danilo sees some playing time before January. Nets may have more young talent, but maybe the Knicks win more games this year? It is going to be close.

YI + LOPEZ= NETS TWIN TOWERS!!!

brook lopez was unbelievable defense and offense i dont remember one bad play that he did. on defense he was helping his teammates out and he killed curry in the 4th quarter

Carter did good when he played but that missed dunk was heartbreaking

harris was awesome his offense was much better today then yesterday but he still turns the ball over way too much

simmons did much better he hit his three pointer consistently

yi struggled on his shot and needs to go a little bit harder to the basket and put the ball in and try and dunk it since he is very athletic and defense he still strugled a lot… he has to lock on to his players more often i see him getting confused and not knowing which man he is suppost to guard

Gill was good scoring the ball but he didnt distribute well at all

hodge was pretty good he played hella better then last game in europe. he scored well and had a couple of nice passes his defesne was also great with him and brook backing him up it was good defense

cdr was non existant i felt this game sometimes i would forget he was in the game and also when he tried to score he couldnt

sean played alright but i want to see him block more shots last year he blocked much better and on offense he needs to be more assertive he looks confused in the post

ryan played alright but not as well as yesterday i still dont see that 3 point shot going in too often

hassel played alright hit some shots but idk i rather him not play

ager played ok but he just pisses me off too much

all in all this team still has to play defense we know that with carter in the lineup we can score but defense will be the key hopefully frank can get them playing defense and follow brooks lead

3 points from me:

-Three to four rotation guys weren’t playing for us (Najera, Dooling, Boone, Hayes) and only one (Lee) wasn’t playing for them. I’m not worried.

-I’m sorry, but Ager needs to be bought out and Gill or Hodge must be signed.

-BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK! Go Nets!

Judging by the performance of Lopez, he is ready start NOW. Let’s put him in the middle and let him learn through mistakes. That was pretty impressive, especially working against fat Curry.

Yi had a sub par game. His stroke didn’t work. His defense is going to be a problem. Yet, it is only a game and he also needs to learn by playing.

DH needs to learn to pass. At times he gets into awkward positions and throw the ball to bigs who cannot handle the pass.

VC is ready to go but still needs to attack.

biggest positive from this game?

BROOK LOPEZ!

the big kid was solid. he played better defense and was SMART on the offensive end. he did not rush his plays in the post and it was nice to see plays being run for him and through his post game.

with years he will gain more strength to really backdown guys and be better, but right now he is showing he is a smart player who is going to be effective for us.

brook was the mvp. carter played very well too. he was getting up and down and anything he wanted. you could see vince had a bounce in his game. played the point well too.

devin was more aggressive and when the season starts i expect that from him. right now i think hes trying to be a leader and get the new guys and rooks involved and get them looks, but when game 1 roles around i think he knows it is carter and him. i think he will be aggressive on the defensive end and hopefully the same on the defensive end.

Yi played well. smooth jumpers and some aggressive plays. it seems like we only use him in pick-n-rolls which basically means he needs more strength for a post game and just needs time since he is new. i think we should utilize him in the post and at least let him try and be crafty and use his size since he doesnt have much strength.

bobby got in a rhythm from 3 which was nice to see.

back to brook. boy its exciting watching him. his play and attitude. Yi may be more important to us, but i can absolutely see Brook being a very good nba center for us. with Yi, im hoping. if Yi can just improve his D we will have 2 7 footers as our cornerstone for the future and that is very very exciting.

I know its only pre-season, but it doesn’t look good right now.

we need to do something with keiths contract and we need to get rid of ager and hassell. asap

hey jesse we will be fine we didn’t haven swift, najera, hayes, boone and carter didn’t play whole game

this was a great game.The stats show that we lost behind the arc.Let them hit too many.Yi showed that he needs to come off the Bench and Boone start.I now see that sweet jumper Simmons has.That jumpers too good to bring off the Bench.
Starting line-up=

Lopez
Boone
simmons
V.C
Harris

Main rotation guys

Dooling,Yi,CDR Then Swat.No reason to let anyone get playing time unless theres a problem.that a nine man rotation.though id like to start CDR he,s young ans simmons is a vet.

this team just need to build their trust in each other we the core players.Frank needs to stop with the grade school stuff and give this team some direction like a leader would.Come on Frank!!name your starters and the guys who are going to back them up.It shows leadership.If you cant do it let someone else.

few observations.

first the positives:

-brook HAS to be the starting center. first off he’s the only legit center on the team. the guy can flat out score, in the post, putbacks, or shoot the ball. his bball iq is off the charts for a rookie. but what surprises me is that he can rebound the ball very well. the guyt can rebound and defend, block shots and alter tham. even though boone is more experienced, he’s not a legit center, and he can score the ball on his own. olus brook defends the paint better than him. he is one of the cornerstones, and the nets need ti treat him like one. he has to start, its an easy decision.

-i like the way vince is playing and performing as a leader. he’s active, he has a bounce in his step, and he’s vocal. vince is the kind of athlete that comes once in a lifetime. he has plenty of gas in him. he might not be as athletic as he used ot be, but he’s still probably in the first percentile of athletes in the league still. he needs more touches and the offense needs to be ran through him more. the nets have to iuse him like the cavs use lebron, as their primary ball handler and playamker. he just attracts too much attention, and he has a knack of always creating shots and opportunities for others.

- even though yi didnt have his pateneted stroke today, he still played well. in time, as he gets more comfortable and more acclamaited, you will see his allround game come out, and see him be much more assertive on offense and defense. the nets got so lucky to be able to get a legit pf and c for their future. thats the two position including pg, and a allstar wing player, that is hardest to get. the nets have all four.

-simmons started to get more comfortable. he needs to play off others. drive and kick and shoot. i think hell get betetr as the season goes along.

-i liked harris’s aggression today. i think he’s doing his best with the offense he has. but this kid has lots of talent and potential. he defnintly can be a star.
negatives:

-the nets look lost on oth offense and defense. first off the offense. this dribble drive offense just isnt working so far. their not able to get too many open shots or seams to the baskets. every time devin gets the ball on the top of the key, the paint always seems to be packed. he alwasy has to settle for a jumper. he’s not able to get to the rim, cause this ooffense is soo easy to defend. even though they scored 106 ppts, the nets didnt have any flow or rythim in their offense. as you can see by the assist to fg ratio, it was very bad. this offense doesnt allow the ball to move around, and create team play. so far thast my observstion.

- on defense the nets look lost. i dont think it mattters who’s ont he floor on defense. they just dont know how to defend, and thast coaching. they leave the 3 pt line wide open. it sseems that teams can be able to get whatever against the nets. and thast not on the players. theyre not well coached opn defense. i dont know but they seem to lack the fundementals of defense. they dont know where to be or how to react. frank better find a way to get these players to play defense. last year the blazers and sixers were younger than the nets are now, but they played tremendous defense. its all coaching when it comes to defense. i dont think the players are slacking out there, they just dont know how to play proper defense, cause no one is telling them or teaching them the right way.

this team has talent, and they have the pieces to surprise many people, but it will ultimately come down to coaching. look at the knicks, there such a different team under dantoni, they look like the suns of the east, dantoni has found a way to get hiois players not only to buy in but to implement his coching. i highly doubt frank could of done the saem job with the knicks. the nets still lack an identity. dantonni was able to restablish one in training camp. cheeks was able to establish one wiht his young team last year, same with mcmillan and eddie jordan who’s team was decimated with injuroes and are again, but they know how to play their style. but the nets either score one night and play no D or play D, whoch hardly happens, and cant score. they play a certain style. there are too many inconsistancies with the team, and that comes down to coaching. its a very weak coaching staff they have in jersey. frank is the most inexperienced coach in the nba and has no real life bball experiecne, whihc doesnt allow him to develop youngsters and relate and motivate his players. nobody wants hill, and howard, whos one of the nicest guys in the nba got him fuired, and look at the job stan van gundy did replacing hill, barisse is an absolute nobody, i cant belive he has a job as an assistant, overton and rogers are the only two with playing experiences, but they have no experience coaching, and dont have that cache or credibitly other coaches have like shaw or proter, or even a marc jackson. the coaching staff lacks a real leader of men. and frank makes too many gameplan mistaklkes, substitution mistalkkes, and still even though in preseason lacks the patience wiht the youngsters. i mean hassell is getting more burn in preseason at the 4 than sean and anderson. how is that player development.

in order for this team to succeed and maximize their poitential, they have to be coached well, and so far in preseason they havent been coached well. they still lack an identity which means no foundation yet.. that has been franks knockl the last few yrs, and looks to be still the problem. im sure thorn and kiki are scrutinizing his every move, and im convinced that frank isnt kiki’s typoe of guy in the first plave. he did have a subtle knock on him earlier when he said that they needed ex players to come in and help in player development. and since this team is all about player development nopw, it kind of emans frank isnt the man for the job. i think theyre giving him a new chance since his contract has two yrs and almost 9 million left. he wont get fired this year, but if the nets dont show any signs of improveemtn he wont come back next year. they have to be able to forge an identity and lat a foundation before 2010, they have two yrs to do it, but the secound year has to be a countinuation of the fiurst year. but if frank cant do it, which im suspect already now after giving him a clean slate from my own personal end, it doesnt look good on his part.

i liked the 5 on the floor. give them more time to gel. Yi needs to improve defense and needs to be active on rebounds. I think he’s used to playing 3 in China, where he’s not on the floor for rebounding. DH needs to cut down his TOs and need to read the defense better. When healthy, we should see some minutes from KD, JH, EN, RA, JB.

Brook should start! Period. He was supposed to be a top five pick this year and dropped to us. Well thank goodness he did. WE HAVE A LEGIT CENTER! I am sure there will be bumps in the road, but, he is fundamentally ready to make an impact on a nightly basis. Brook to me is more ready than even Yi. When Boone comes back, I would like to see Brook and him play together to see how well they compliment each other down low.

Went to the game. Lopez will be a star. He should touch the ball on every possession. DH needs to feed BL more on the post and build a connection or have Brook and Carter play the inside out game. Yi was outplayed by Chandler. He is not defensive minded and too soft to play the 4. He doesn’t contest enough shots but has a nice offensive game. We missed Boone. Swat is not comfortable playing the 5. I know its preseason but if Hassell is the Boki of 09 (undersized 4 at the end of the game) Frank has to go. He’s got Swat and Yi on the bench. Why wouldn’t he play either of them with Brook at the end is beyond me. It’s not like these guys are vets.

c BL,JB
pf Swat,JB,Swift
sf Yi, Anderson, Simmons/Hassell
sg VC, CDR
pg DH, KD

Najara could be the backup 3 if he could outplay the others.
I would try keep out of BL, Swat and JB 2 of them on the court at the same time as much as possible.

Meaningless pre-season loss?

FIRE FRANK!!

Sean Carter,

here you come again, it’s just no funny.

Brook no doubt is the best Nets center now. Just start him every game.

Again Lopez needs to start and Frank should run more plays for him. It is useless for him to set screens and playing only on defensive end.

Other part to improve is 3 point defense. Again we were killed there. Need to fix that problem.

theres no way yi’s coming off the bench. Nets GM isnt dumb, frank isnt dumb either. Yi comes off the bench = no profit

Brook has got to start, and I think I will have the type of year Krstic had when he was forced into the starting lineup as a rookie. He will develop as the year goes on and surprise a lot of people.

I’m really tired of hearing it’s just preseason. Like this team is going to tear it up come opening night and thereafter? They don’t look lost…they are lost. This dribble drive thing will be gone by game 10 or 15…or hopefully Frank will be gone. Harris pushing the ball with all the big athleticism should lead to more than 72 points a night which is where we are headed.

The future looks bright with Harris, Lopez, Yi, CDR, and Anderson. A year or two from now we will all be proud to be NETS fans….right now the only thing that matters is who would be #1 if the draft were tomorrow?

And for the record I’d much rather watch these guys go 17-65 that watch a jaded Kidd lead us to mediocrity whil putting out 80 percent!

so much for player devlopment, its preseaosn and andersoon and swat dont get a minute in 4th quarter garbage time. this is when you play them. this is when they play through mistakes and learn how to play. the way frank is copachiong, he’s coaching himself out of a job. anderson and swat should of played every secound of the 4th.

and gill sucks. he cand efend period. he was getting massacred out there. hodge played beautifully. i would take hodge anyday, cause of his versitility and he still has upside. gill was awful out there. but knowing frank, before the comopetetion even started he already picked gill in his mind. it was evident in the end of the 4th, when hodge was playing beautifyull, frank put gill back out there, and took the ball handling duites from hodge. the only thing gill does better in is shooting, but passing, dribbling, soring , drinving and defense, hodge is tons better than gill.

at least we didnt see hassell out there for too much.

but you could tell anderson was pissed off on the bench when he wwas sitting there in the 4th. and frank is doing everyhting he can to get sean out of jersey. how can you asses a player when all he gets is 5 minutes a game. game time is the only time were you can assess a player. and sean proved last year he can be a monster once his confidence is up. he needs to play with devin and vince, and he should be a 5. frank is hjust setting him up to fail. i mean, player development, ya right, not with frank. wioth frank its if they can play ill play them, cause i dont know how to teach. where scott when you need him.

@mina
hassell played 15 mins and swat played 7’47
anderson played less than 10 mins…
ager played 12 though…

ryan anderson had 20 points in the last game….
if this preseason is about experimenting then why didnt lawrence frank experiment with anderson at 3 for a while..
but someone has pointed out in one of the comments tat Yi is too soft for PF, i think tat is so true..there is simply no power… swat can play 4 better but he doesnt possess the shooting touch Yi has…

They scored 66 against a good defensive team and 104 against this bad one. Average is 85 and that is pretty much where I’ve been pegging this team all offseason. In the reg season, teams are going to double VC whenever games are close. Every night one of the kids will play well and one will really stink, and you can do the odds on how often we’re going to get two kids to play well the same night to give us a chance at winning.

BROOK! He was great. He just looks like he knows what he’s doing. I loved how he got an offensive board and putback without leaving his feet. And he isn’t a wimp either. He’s going to be big for us. I want to see Brook and Boone together. That could be nice. Yi requires a lot of patience. There is a language barrier too, so he needs extended time in one system. Coming over from the Bucks it’s probably like having his rookie season all over again. He’s doing a lot of thinking and he’s a couple of steps slow.

Simmons looked out of place on the floor like he came in from some other team. He was great when he was spotting up in the corner though.

Hodge was a nice surprise in the 4th quarter and it was good to see us get back in the game. It would be nice to think that if we’re down 19 in the 3rd that there is a reason to keep watching. I didn’t feel that way last season.

elephant in the room: ben, xcalibur, mina – same person?

Missed the game, but looks to be a tough year for the Nets. I hope they win more games than the Knicks but it will be hard to do with Starbury having his head in the game this year under his old coach.

Pray for Frank, he has a tough job constructing a starting lineup out of this team. And his job is on the line.

This goes to Devin- STOP being so sporadic

Frank needs to be fired….that was only a preseason game but the offense lacks common sense…

Brook Lopez should be the 2nd option on offense, period. He should touch the ball 4 out of 5 times every 5 offensive possessions.

Lopez and Boone need to start together if Yi can’t find it within himself to play aggressive and rebound. All i ask for is 6-7 rebs from him. He plays way too soft on defense, i watch Duhon drive right at his chest and he didn’t do anything but shy away from contact. Getting bodied by bigger forwards is one thing, but to let a guard drive at you and act like he has the cooties is inexcusable and i hope they let him know about it. I wish we could just pencil him in at the 3 but i don’t know if his defense is good enough to start off games playing against guys like Lebron James and Paul Pierce. Still, i like “Yi Pills” and w/ time he will be solid.

I think that Frank wasted a valuable oppurtunity last night by not running RA in there during garbage time as the SF of that line up. Anderson at least goes out there and attempts to be aggressive on the boards, something Yi has refused to do so far.

Again, as i said last night, this team has talent and a lot of tools when healthy, but if they aren’t used right, we’ll be lucky to score 80 points a game with Frank at the helm. A superior coach would get the best out of this mix.

Hodge looked good, but i’d still take Gill as the 3rd PG on the roster. I would keep Hodge over Ager and Assel though….Hassel sucks badly and Ager belongs in the D League as a 12th man. At least Hodge knows enough to go out there and attempt to make plays instead of sucking up all of the oxygen on the gym floor like those two waste of egg cells. Assel is supposed to be a defensive specialist but at this point he couldn’t defend an AAU player, nevermind an NBA player. Hassel and Frank need to stop wasting our time and they need to stop taking CDR’s minutes

and Hassel is barely 6’5 and this idiot runs him at PF at times. I’m sorry but are you serious? Playing Nachbar at the 4 is one thing, but Assel????

Frank needs to go and he needs to take his pet players with him. I thought all of this nonsense would stop when Collins got traded out of the NBA

A couple other notes from last night…

The Knicks look like they might be watchable this season, which is good news.

Listening to Jim Spanarkle’s repartee with Ian Eagle makes me want to kill myself.

can anyone imagine Yi guarding amare, al jefferson, elton brand etc at 4. those guys will murder him..
i dunno when is t last day to announce the 15 roster…hope they get rid of ager and hassell…it makes no sense…

@ Mr Dollar Bills

Lol @ Duhon having cooties and “Assel”.

Despite a few bright spots, we did not look good in this game. The defense got torched, and the offense looks uncertain. Swat looked terrible in his limited minutes, and Yi and CDR not much better. Frank got out-coached by D’Antoni, who has the Knicks looking very comfortable and playing up to the talents for the first time in a very long time.

We all knew this would be a tough year, but if last night is any indication, 30 wins will be a stretch and the Knicks might be pushing 40. It’s early and I’m still with the program, but so far they look like the team that nobody will want to play, while we look uptight and tentative.

I think the NETS is a good team. but the way I am seeing it, it would really take a long time. If after tomorrow’s game they don’t establish any cohesiveness, then it’s really going to suck this year. I believe Frank is taking too long to form out anything with this team. I am afraid there will no fans anymore at the arena.
    What is he waiting for, Hayes nad Najera to be available? Those guys are not going to make a big impact either. I expect Frank to play the real line-up he intends
to use and develope by now, no more guessing, no more who should I develope. It’s a given CDR, Brook, Williams and Anderson. Let them play for 40 minutes and the rest of pre-season. If they don’t click then for sure there is a reason why and for sure it can be corrected.
   Stop this nonsense, Ager, Hodge, Hamilton, Hassell, don’t use them anymore they are just spare parts. No need to test these guys. They are on a different league.
  My first five will be Yi, Brooks, Simmon, Carter and Harris.
  Bench will be Williams, Anderson, Dooling, CDR and Boone

If available Hayes for Anderson
If available Najera for Simmon

If guys get in foul trouble then
Anderson for Williams, Williams for Yi
Swift for Boone, Boone for Brooks
Gill for Dooling and Dooling for Harris
Hayes for CDR, CDR for Carter
Simmon for Hayes or Najera
 

10 man rotaion only

first five 30 to 35 minutes playing time
Bench 15 to 20 minutes playing time